Throughout the history of human civilization we have found ourselves struggling with numerous questions, be these intellectual, moral and/or socially concerned... — I like sushi
The thrust of what I’m saying is that I don’t know who this is for and I not convinced you do yet either. I’m getting mixed messages due to how it is lain out. The ‘set up’ matters a lot because people like to know what they are getting themselves into. — I like sushi
Before I even knew what philosophy was, I was looking for something. Something fundamental. I didn’t know what to call it.
When I discovered philosophy, I thought that that field was the place where I would find what I was looking for, and that that was the name of what I was looking for: a philosophy. The right one.
I didn’t find it. But I found lots of partial attempts at it, and partially successful attempts at it, and generally, altogether, most of the parts of it. They just needed to be shaped and polished a bit, assembled together in the right way, and a few gaps filled in.
That’s what my book is meant to be: the thing I came to philosophy looking for, but never found. And it’s targeted at people like me from 20 years ago, who are looking for the same thing I was, and who have just learned that something called “philosophy” is where something like that may be found, but don’t yet know the first thing about it. — Pfhorrest
My own critique of my critique here would be to say I should really give positive feedback too. I like a lot of the content because I’ve looked at your essays before. I judged you to be someone less concerned with compliments and more likely to take criticism seriously if it was straight up - if you were a student it would be a different matter and I’d likely use a more ‘encouraging’ tone. — I like sushi
I would like to instead explain what I am trying to communicate (which is not arguing with the critique) and get suggestions on how that could be better communicated. — Pfhorrest
Before I even knew what philosophy was, I was looking for something. Something fundamental. I didn’t know what to call it.
When I discovered philosophy, I thought that that field was the place where I would find what I was looking for, and that that was the name of what I was looking for: a philosophy. The right one.
I didn’t find it. But I found lots of partial attempts at it, and partially successful attempts at it, and generally, altogether, most of the parts of it. They just needed to be shaped and polished a bit, assembled together in the right way, and a few gaps filled in.
That’s what my book is meant to be: the thing I came to philosophy looking for, but never found. And it’s targeted at people like me from 20 years ago, who are looking for the same thing I was, and who have just learned that something called “philosophy” is where something like that may be found, but don’t yet know the first thing about it. — Pfhorrest
This is the moral of the story, so to speak. It's the maxim that everything boils down to. — Pfhorrest
It may be hopeless, but I'm trying anyway. — Pfhorrest
I'm looking for people who like what it is that I'm trying to do and have thoughts on how I can do it better. It seems you don't think I should be even trying to do this, and your only thoughts are on how it's awful, with no constructive suggestions for how to make it better. — Pfhorrest
2. Find someone close enough to your target audience as you can and who has no, or very little, vested interest in your emotional wellbeing, and ask them to devote some time to reading your work. You will no doubt have a clear picture of that kind of individual, so you can perhaps identify a suitable person or some suitable people within your circle of loose acquaintances. — jkg20
Do not expect that person to advise you what to do to improve the book, you are writing it, not them. — jkg20
On a different note, if you goal is to see this book in print and to be published by someone other than yourself — jkg20
Sushi made it obvious from the start he didn't give a shit about your feelings and was just going to say what he was going to say. — Baden
And now I've got another good reason, which is people getting pissed off that everyone doesn't love their stuff as much as they do. — Baden
I did not say or imply that you were in it for the money. Publishers and agents are. You might, however; want your work published to reach a wider audience than a bunch of insomniancs with nothing better to do than try to prove other people are interpreting Wittgenstein incorrectly. If you do want to do that, you will need to have a sharper target in sight than just "people who in other cicumstances might have been philsophy students". If you sharpen your target you may also have to sharpen the focus of the work, of course, and turn it into something with more limited scope.It’s not. I don’t see what the point of that would be, I’m not doing this for money, I’m trying to give away something useful to the world.
You might, however; want your work published to reach a wider audience — jkg20
depersonalise it. The "I" count is very high — jkg20
Questionable advice, and in any case open to interpretation. The suggestion was not that you should, or even could, write without dropping in the odd first person pronoun here and there where it makes sense. However, your use of it seems extravagant and very often entirely unnecessary. Compare your use of it with, say, Kant's and perhaps you will see. In any case, you wanted opinions from people interested in philosophy and who read philosophy, and, being such a person, I gave you one. What you do with it is entirely up to you.my philosophy professors, who explicitly instructed everyone that philosophy is written from the first person;
It kind of sounds like many of you have never actually written a philosophy paper and are running on old high school writing rules.
Perhaps this is the one and only time you break those guidelines of grammar and style in so few words. However, on the off chance that the aforementioned quotation is indicative of your writing generally, you might want to look up those three pieces of advice on the internet and see if anyone else agrees with them or not.But I am not saying to automatically reject all claims made by all authorities. — Pfhorrest
How about 'first person impersonal' (e.g. Spinoza, Kant, Schopenhauer, Wittgenstein, Peirce, Russell ... Nussbaum, Meillassoux, et al)? Less 'systemic' memoir, more autopsy ... of reflection / reasoning. :chin:... philosophy is written from the first person — Pfhorrest
:up: "Drinks for all my friends!" ~Henry Chinaski, Barfly... a bunch of insomniancs with nothing better to do than try to prove other people are interpreting Wittgenstein incorrectly. — jkg20
Well expressed.Less 'systemic' memoir, more autopsy ... of reflection / reasoning.
Cheers. Next round's on me as well."Drinks for all my friends!" ~Henry Chinaski, Barfly
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