inappropriate behavior — Bitter Crank
LOL. It isn't okay, but transgenders reinforce those social roles everytime they claim wearing a dress makes them a woman and then attempts to change what is in their underpants. Why can't a man wear a skirt and still be a man?I find it odd that you of all those here are happy to have the contents of one's underpants determine one's social role. — Banno
Children that young aren't making decisions about their gender. It is their parents. Just look at the case of Dr. Money who was the originator of the idea that gender is a social construction. He tried to force his male patient into being a girl but he knew he wasn't and it ended up messing him up to the point where he committed suicide.I have doubts about transsexualism, gender dysphoria, and so on, when these terms are applied to adults. Many more doubts when applied to children. — Bitter Crank
I find it odd that you of all those here are happy to have the contents of one's underpants determine one's social role. — Banno
Yes, I believe that's reasonable. However, it's not necessarily what all trangender people want. Some advocate for allowing preteens to start medically transitioning before their natural hormones change them in directions they do not believe they want. I disagree with the whole concept, but I can understand their position. — Artemis
"Within a few months of beginning hormone therapy, you must assume that you will become permanently and irreversibly sterile. Some people may maintain a sperm count on hormone therapy, or have their sperm count return after stopping hormone therapy, but you must assume that won’t be the case for you." — Artemis
If parents are raising their children in gender-neutral environment then they arent stressing any particular way of dressing as being man or woman because any gender/sex can wear what they want. Children would be raised in a way as to not make a connection with the way you dress and your sex. But that isn't what is happening. These parents are raising them as the opposite sex and the kids have no choice in the matter. As they develop they realize that they don't share the qualities of that sex/gender and this is what caused the mental anguish because they are confused thanks to their parents, not society.1) Acceptance of gender non-conformity.
=> (2) Parents accept gender non-conformity
=>(3) Children interested in gender reassignment are encouraged to transition early.
=>(4) Lifelong mental scarring. — fdrake
As they develop they realize that they don't share the qualities of that sex/gender and this is what caused the mental anguish because they are confused thanks to their parents, not society. — Harry Hindu
Would you add "I might have wanted to lie with other men; but that's just not how it's done"? No. — Banno
Society treats the child the way the parents dress and refer to the child. The parents determine how society treats the child.This is just plain wrong. Unless you raise your child on a deserted island without books or music or any other form of human culture, the child is being shaped by society all the time. — Artemis
Just go look ar Dr. Money's experiment. He told the parents to raise the boy as a girl because — Harry Hindu
The parents determine how society treats the child. — Harry Hindu
Guess the application of puberty blockers comes down to the question; does the benefit of suspending puberty for this patient outweigh the possible risks of applying it? — fdrake
Like, if gender is based on self-id and not physical attributes, why is changing the physical of such importance as to outweigh possible health risks. — Artemis
No. Not accommodating an inappropriate behavior isn't punishing the child.
Here we are talking about quite young children deciding they are the opposite gender and demanding to wear clothes (or behave) in the manner of the opposite sex. Young children don't go clothes shopping by themselves (one would hope) so how does this problem arise? By the parents providing the clothing the child wanted to wear. Why would an adult take their 6 year old's clothing preferences as a directive, let alone something as major and complex as identity? — Bitter Crank
Yes, I do. Because, why only often? Why not always? What is the percentage? Is there a way to tell ahead of time? And on what basis are they happier? Because they actually feel better in their own skin or because other people are nicer when they "pass"? And if the latter, should we be allowing kids to modify their bodies because other people are jerks? — Artemis
Because they actually feel better in their own skin or because other people are nicer when they "pass"?
If it was required to trace the aetiology of any mental health effecting condition to general patterns in the population before administering any treatment, no treatment would ever be administered for mental health issues. There are screens in place - it's hard to get puberty blockers or hormone therapy. Especially hard for kids. — fdrake
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