Are we all immortal in some weird sense? — TheMadFool
the impossibility of having to traverse an infinite number of points between the two. — TheMadFool
Not weird, but in the sense that it is. The weirdness is a product of insufficient knowledge wielding inadequate imagination in attempting to understand the ineffable. — tim wood
When you get to a point such as that in your reasoning, it's a cue to say, "Oops! I must have f-ed up somewhere, at least in some assumption I made. — Terrapin Station
Why is that strange? — Terrapin Station
I was talking about the tortoise and Achilles paradox and a cousin responded. Coincidence! Strange. — TheMadFool
Strangely "cousin" is a relational term — Terrapin Station
Anyway do you have any idea where I f***ed up in my reasoning? — TheMadFool
Probably there isn't an infinite amount of points to cross — Terrapin Station
Is the problem with math or a subset of math infinity? — TheMadFool
Are we all immortal in some weird sense? — TheMadFool
Using the same principle on a person x born 1976 and died 2019 can we say that x is immortal given that x had to experience an infinite number of time intervals? — TheMadFool
No. The union of all the points in that interval still lasts 43 years — fdrake
If we take time to be on a number line how many points of time are there between 1976 and 2019? Infinite, unless you want to invoke Planck time? — TheMadFool
If we take time to be on a number line — TheMadFool
This assertion is of course nonsense since there is no evidence whatsoever that neither time nor distance cannot be divided after some point. It's just below the ability to measure after a point.Neither time nor distance is infinitely divisible; the Plank time and the Plank size are shortest and the smallest. — PoeticUniverse
The math also says that you can cut the cheese as many times as you like and it doesn't give you more cheese. You f***ed up when you drew a different conclusion from the mathematics.Mr x (1976 to 2019). x has to first reach 1997 and before that he has to reach 1986 and before that 1981and before that 1971 each time interval can halved indefinitely. The math says so. Is the problem with math or a subset of math infinity? — TheMadFool
The amount of partitions does no matter, provided you take the inertia in to account - it still takes the same amount of time for Achilles to catch the tortoise and to reach 2019 from 1976.One of Zeno's most famous paradox has to do with Achilles never being able to catch a tortoise that's been given a head start in a race because of the impossibility of having to traverse an infinite number of points between the two.
Using the same principle on a person x born 1976 and died 2019 can we say that x is immortal given that x had to experience an infinite number of time intervals? — TheMadFool
The amount of partitions does no matter, provided you take the inertia in to account - it still takes the same amount of time for Achilles to catch the tortoise and to reach 2019 from 1976.
The trick is in the conflation of speed and distance. — Shamshir
That could be it. How do you then account for the following:
Mr x (1976 to 2019). x has to first reach 1997 and before that he has to reach 1986 and before that 1981and before that 1971 each time interval can halved indefinitely. The math says so. Is the problem with math or a subset of math infinity? — TheMadFool
I don't see a problem with the model, moreso with its presentation.Perhaps there's a problem with the model we're using - the number line. — TheMadFool
I don't see a problem with the model, — Shamshir
If the plank length is the smallest length, than it not zero. Therefore you can make a right triangle with it. Half the hypotenuse is smaller than the Plank length. There you go — Gregory
Where's the issue?Numbers are infinitely divisible.
A line is infinitely divisible??? Zeno's paradox — TheMadFool
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