• Wallows
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    But the distinction was clear and apparent to your mind? So was it in mine.
  • Banno
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    I would argue that money is necessary to gain this food.NuncAmissa

    But I did not say that money is necessary to gain food. Quite the opposite, in fact
  • Banno
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    And? Sometimes the cat pokes things off the table just to be a pain.
  • Wallows
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    We don't know about intentional affect quite yet. What we're left with is behaviorism. The cat behaves this way to elicit a response, not that it 'understands the concept of being a pain'.
  • NuncAmissa
    47


    Isn't that the point of my response?
  • hks
    171
    Cats are really smart too !!
  • Banno
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    We don't know about intentional affect quite yetPosty McPostface

    Oh, I don't know - I think we can make pretty good inferences from observed behaviour. I'm not going to conclude that there is nothing intentional going on behind your posts.
  • Wallows
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    Oh, I don't know - I think we can make pretty good inferences from observed behaviour. I'm not going to conclude that there is nothing intentional going on behind your posts.Banno

    Well, @StreetlightX has posted an illuminating post here. What do you think about his behaviourism?
  • Banno
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    That is it not behaviourism.
  • Wallows
    6.8k
    That is it not behaviourism.Banno

    What is it?
  • Brianna Whitney
    21
    Want, and need, don't exist in present tense. Gratification is a human instinct. Being primal, it doesn't discriminate.

    For a less philosophic answer, I'd put the question next to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
  • Wallows
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    For a less philosophic answer, I'd put the question next to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.Brianna Whitney

    And what do you have to say about that?
  • Brianna Whitney
    21
    "In order to live an ethical life, we must first identify our wants from needs. Want's can not all be satisfied, per Stoicism."

    All sources of gratification fulfill a need. Maslow's Heirarchy would assert that a person's motivation is based on fulfilling needs that are physical, psychological, social, creative, etc., Physical needs are precedent. If physical needs are met, we approach a new set of goals for gratification.

    https://goo.gl/images/Engm1d

    I'm not a fan of stoicism.
  • Wallows
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    All sources of gratification fulfill a need. Maslow's Heirarchy would assert that a person's motivation is based on fulfilling needs that are physical, psychological, social, creative, etc., Physical needs are precedent. If physical needs are met, we approach a new set of goals for gratification.Brianna Whitney

    Hmm, I can see how physical needs are mandatory. But, I don't know so much about psychological needs.

    I'm not a fan of stoicism.Brianna Whitney

    Why's that?
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