Name a contemporary Cartsian. Most of us lean toward ontological anti-realism. An example of clarity: — frank
Being reaches beyond the personal, not-being does not. The dreadful is the closing in. That is why the question is a reawakening of the trauma and not of the reaching beyond of birth. — unenlightened
I don't agree with first sentence tho. — csalisbury
Whenever an existential choice or commitment is made — Janus
Curious. If I were a solipsist, I would say, 'all being is personal, nothing is beyond it.' — unenlightened
So, nothing more can be said about what's 'beyond the personal'. — Posty McPostface
nothing is beyond it — unenlightened
Do you mean like when I just chose to make coffee, the possibility of tea slipped away from the personal? I'm not clear what an existential choice is as distinct from a non-existential one...
Because it seems that the no-tea is entirely personal, whereas coffee is for sharing and the aroma wafts up the stairs and wakens my lover.
To be a bit more radical, the fear of death and the fear of birth are the same. — unenlightened
As to biological birth and death, in case that is what you have in mind, I can't see how fear of those could be the same since one is in the past and the other in the future. — Janus
If I've offended anyone, I apologize. — Ciceronianus the White
Sure, but the reality of the psychological effect of birth trauma is speculative. — Janus
where the known ends, the unknown begins; so I don't see much of a significant distinction there. — Janus
Sure, but the reality of the psychological effect of birth trauma is speculative. — Janus — unenlightened
As an aside: I normally frown heavily on the psychologising of philosophy, but in this case exceptionally I think it is legitimate, because the philosophy is itself founded on the psychological phenomenon of dread — unenlightened
It's speculative if you have no memory, but if you have some memory, it is experiential. — unenlightened
" where the known ends, the unknown begins; so I don't see much of a significant distinction there". — Janus
I don't think you can even say that much. Possibly something begins, possibly not. From the pov of facing annihilation, of being squeezed out of existence, the unknown, in the form of bright lights and towels and breasts and noise is way beyond imagination - to say that death is the beginning of the unknown is to pretend to a knowledge that cannot be had by definition. — unenlightened
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