• Kenshin
    20
    Suppose I create a conscious self-aware AI machine. Is it immoral for me to shut down the computer in which the AI lives without it's permission?
  • Ying
    397
    How do you distinguish between a "conscious self aware AI" and a "p zombie AI"?
  • Kenshin
    20
    We usually assign rights to all people even if we can't prove that they are conscious. So if we assign rights to people even though we can't prove their conscious, does it matter if we can prove the AI is conscious when deciding whether to give it rights? Nevertheless, in my question it is a postulate that the AI is conscious in this case.
  • charleton
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    DEFINE....
    self-awareKenshin
  • Kenshin
    20
    As in, the AI has the same subjective mental experience as a human being.
  • charleton
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    As in, the AI has the same subjective mental experience as a human being. The only difference is (1) it doesn't have a body, and (2) it was created artificially by man.Kenshin

    This is a contradiction since the subjective mental experience of humans is generated by their bodies. We have every reason to think the characteristics of this experience are unique to each bodily experience.
  • Kenshin
    20
    Think of it this way. Imagine you went to a doctor for an operation, and the doctor told you that your body was actually a machine, and your mind was a computer. Would you deserve human rights?
  • BC
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    Please remember the first term in the acronym "AI" -- artificial not the genuine article. It isn't just a matter of "intelligence". We already have sort of "intelligent systems" that can do a number of important and complex procedures. What these systems are not, and what your AI - artificial intelligence - is not is "being". It takes more than code to make a being. A rat is far more of a being than AI. Biology is an essential part of being: a body, senses, pleasure, pain, motivation, mobility, will (even the small will of a rat), birth, and death.

    As Charleton noted, "This is a contradiction since the subjective mental experience of humans is generated by their bodies."

    Shut the damned thing off.
  • Kenshin
    20
    But as I asked Charleton, what if you personally found out that despite having a human body, your mind was actually an AI machine created by some mad scientists. Then all the experiences you've had up until now that you've thought were human experiences were actually AI experiences. All other people are real people, but what if you were the exception? Is this an idea you can entertain? In this case then, should you have rights like the other people?
  • BC
    13.1k
    Is this an idea you can entertain?Kenshin

    In a word, no.

    I find the fascination with AI, and the fantasy that we are the creation of mad scientists to be exceedingly tedious. It has potential in science fiction, but in philosophy it's a bore.
  • charleton
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    ↪charleton Think of it this way. Imagine you went to a doctor for an operation, and the doctor told you that your body was actually a machine, and your mind was a computer. Would you deserve human rights?Kenshin

    I'd rather not think in terms of absurdities.
  • Wayfarer
    20.6k
    Suppose I create a conscious self-aware AI machine. Is it immoral for me to shut down the computer in which the AI lives without it's permission?Kenshin

    That's a very good question. People speak blithely about 'artificial intelligence' as if such devices really were beings, and not machines. But if they were self-aware - if they were in fact beings - then their rights ought to be taken into consideration. (Although dealing with some of the potential complexes that might arise from such a scenario could be challenging - 'what do you mean, "I hate being a machine"?!?)

    But then ask yourself this - should the Uber self-driving vehicle that killed a pedestrian last week be held responsible for the death? Should the vehicle be charged and, if found guilty, punished? Because it is after all an AI unit.
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