Why do you ask? Are you Finnish? — Tobias

:lol: Hey, whose Irish?

Just not interested in in discussing it in snappy barbs with a European.

Yep.

Now Trump is saying that the election was stolen... but now go home.

The guy simply doesn't understand just how seriously his followers take him. And likely that will be the end of Trump once those hardcore supporters understand how full of bullshit their idol is. Because, in the end Trump cannot be anything else but the inept leader that he is.

(It would be like saying to us Finns that Russia just invaded your country, but go home now, no need to mobilize the army.) — ssu

Does he really don't understand though, or is it exactly his intention, I can't decide. His video almost seemed like as explicit an invitation to carry on you could get away with as an acting president.

Just not interested in in discussing it in snappy barbs with a European. — frank

Ohhh dear identity politics. I thought that was a thing of the left...

I excused myself from work just to watch the livestreams. What a day.

This was grassroots civil disobedience at its finest, not that corporate-funded, celebrity-endorsed astroturfing we’ve been inundated with for the past few years.

Though the most racist and money-grubbing organization of the last millennia has once again taken power, a growing party of working class patriots forms beneath them. As Trump’s power wanes the movement he championed will carry on.

When did leftists storm the Capitol?

Probably the Kavanaugh hearing. I believe the new Vice President even spoke there.

This was grassroots civil disobedience at its finest, — NOS4A2

It was internet-roots, stewed in conspiracy theories for years. It's all fantasy.

Don't you realize that?

Read Nos's comment. See if you can spot the leftism.

If you can't, fuck off.

Shut up, @frank.

sigh.

Whatever then. Knock yourself out. It's the same tape.

Tape?

Probably the Kavanaugh hearing. I believe the new Vice President even spoke there. — NOS4A2

Ohh, was a woman shot, bombs found in the halls, thugs breaking windows? Or was it a war of words in which eventually the outcome of democratic procedure was accepted?

If you can't, fuck off. — frank

The eloquence of these people never ceases to amaze me.

You make an odd comment that sounds smart to you but doesn't to someone else and then get frustrated at the reaction (also, the you're not an American so you can't talk about America thing).

Anyway, whatever, it's the Trump thread. You can cuss here, I suppose.

Um. That they're similar to leftists? That wasn't a salty jab. It's widely understood that QAnon now spans from right to left.

Oh, so you meant QAnon leftists. Not leftists. Right.

Maybe. It's absorbing anybody with a conspiracy theory. It's probably already in Ireland.

It was internet-roots, stewed in conspiracy theories for years. It's all fantasy.

Don't you realize that?

Far better than the state, corporate and media-funded conspiracies we’ve all had to listen too for years now. It was only a few days ago former pentagon officials and their media propagandists were warning us that Trump might use the military to remain in power. Instead he called for peace and for people to go home.

Sure, that happens on all sides of the political spectrum and in every country.

Ohh, was a woman shot, bombs found in the halls, thugs breaking windows? Or was it a war of words in which eventually the outcome of democratic procedure was accepted?

Well, something like 80 people were arrested. But I’m not comparing the two.

Far better than the state, corporate and media-funded conspiracies we’ve all had to listen too for years now. — NOS4A2

So it's a war where both sides are deluded?

Sure, that happens on all sides of the political spectrum and in every country. — Baden

What happens?

Meanwhile, while NOS celebrates, the woman who was shot in the capitol building is now dead.

Involvement and belief in conspiracy theories.

Um. That they're similar to leftists? That wasn't a salty jab. It's widely understood that QAnon now spans from right to left. — frank

It does actually. The left right dichotomy is also dated. I see a lot of revolutionary discourse which has historically been characterized as 'left' and QAnon supporters and Trumpists. I think Trumpism can best be described as populist. Apparently a large part of the population is susceptible to conspiracy theories, which actually resonate very well with the theories in vogue in 19th century Europe.

Involvement and belief in conspiracy theories — Baden

Oh.

National association of manufacturing has called for the 25th to be invoked.

We’ll, something like 80 people were arrested. But I’m not comparing the two. — NOS4A2

Yeah, also in Pelosi's office? I was blissfully unaware your seats of government were stormed on a regular basis.

Or was it rioting? Something that is not to be condoned of course and a cause for arrest, but it is different from storming a government building. There is a reason why such places are often heavily guarded. The same reason why the US govt objects when in another country their buildings are stormed and rightly so. They also discriminate between riots and the storming of government building, the harassments of journalists etc.

Yeah, also in Pelosi's office? I was blissfully unaware your seats of government were stormed on a regular basis.

Or was it rioting? Something that is not to be condoned of course and a cause for arrest, but it is different from storming a government building. There is a reason why such places are often heavily guarded. The same reason why the US govt objects when in another country their buildings are stormed and rightly so. They also discriminate between riots and the storming of government building, the harassments of journalists etc.

Also, not too long ago there were riots immediately outside of the Whitehouse, in May I think. It turned quite violent and destructive, with the president sent to his bunker.

All of this started from day one, Trump’s inauguration, outside of which was a riot. Politics has been heated ever since.