• ZzzoneiroCosm
    958
    When anyone asks me what it is, I just show them this.Baden

    Case closed. :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol:
  • NOS4A2
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    Of course the media class is fixated on the term Obamagate, and not on the reasons for applying that term. Nothing could be more predictable. But it’s simply untrue that they don’t know what it means because they’ve been talking about it for years now. It’s public information and available to anyone with the curiosity.

    The Obama administration not only used Russian-sourced, DNC gossip to justify spying on the Trump campaign—American citizens—they used the state apparatus to do so. One of the differences between Obamagate and Watergate is the Nixon campaign didn’t have the technology and access to intrusive data collection, so they had to physically break in to access their opponent’s documents and put bugs on their phones.
  • Relativist
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    The Obama administration not only used Russian-sourced, DNC gossip to justify spying on the Trump campaign—American citizens—they used the state apparatus to do so. One of the differences between Obamagate and Watergate is the Nixon campaign didn’t have the technology and access to intrusive data collection, so they had to physically break in to access their opponent’s documents and put bugs on their phones.NOS4A2
    It's an artful construction to refer to "the Obama administration" in this way. In one sense, everything the intelligence community did during Obama's Presidency can be attributed to "the Obama Administration." However, this doesn't imply Obama was directing the activities. That's the sort of construction Trump likes to use when talking about Obama, but of course - he never applies it to himself.
  • NOS4A2
    3.3k


    Piddle around with the words all you want.
  • Baden
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    I have a feeling Obamagate is going to turn into Ohbummergate when everyone just laughs and walks away. I give it a week, max.
  • Maw
    1.9k
    "Obamagate" is evidence that Trump and the Republicans are nervous about November
  • Relativist
    1.4k
    Piddle around with the words all you want.NOS4A2
    My "piddling" entails using words consistently. You should try it.
  • StreetlightX
    5.4k
    Gotta admit it's nice having a forum clown like NOS.
  • praxis
    2.3k
    I tend to think of him fondly as a rascally pet troll.
  • praxis
    2.3k
    You cant have looked very hard.DingoJones

    That we need to look hard for bad journalism doesn’t do much to support your argument.
  • NOS4A2
    3.3k
    Guys! The president called me a warrior!

  • Benkei
    3k
    I also wasn't aware George Papadopoulos was Russian. It was his bragging to Alexander Downer together with the DNC hack that led to the FBI starting the investigation into Trump's team. Russian sourced indeed.
  • praxis
    2.3k
    I thought you said that you weren't Russian.
  • ssu
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    "Obamagate" is evidence that Trump and the Republicans are nervous about NovemberMaw
    Well, time to change the public discourse when in a short while over 100 000 Americans will have died in the pandemic, which was under control and supposed to have gone away already according to Trump.

    Perhaps they think that what works is what Goebbels said about the English in 1941: "The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous."
  • Metaphysician Undercover
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    t's an artful construction to refer to "the Obama administration" in this way. In one sense, everything the intelligence community did during Obama's Presidency can be attributed to "the Obama Administration." However, this doesn't imply Obama was directing the activities.Relativist

    However, within the Trump administration, anyone disloyal to the president is fired. So, this creates the illusion that all government agencies are directly working for the president, even when normal presidents don't generally behave in this unusual way.

    .
    Guys! The president called me a warrior!NOS4A2

    OMG, the Russians have been given credit! Or is that a disguised request for future activity? Good luck with that.
  • ZzzoneiroCosm
    958

    Keyboard Warriors...There is nobody like you!
    — Trump

    Guys! The president called me a warrior!NOS4A2

    I wish it were true that there was no one like you. In fact you are a faceless thoughtless compassionless horde.
  • ernestm
    885
    However, within the Trump administration, anyone disloyal to the president is fired.Metaphysician Undercover

    I was thinking today, how similar this is to a teacher telling you something that's wrong, then asking you to answer a question about it in an exam.
  • Michael
    8.7k
    However, within the Trump administration, anyone disloyal to the president is fired.Metaphysician Undercover

    Trump just fired an Inspector General who just so happened to have opened an investigation into Pompeo.

    The blatant corruption of this administration is staggering.
  • NOS4A2
    3.3k
    Here’s a little red meat for anti-trumpists. The Lancet, a medical journal, is getting into American politics, telling that because of the weakening of the CDC and the defunding of the WHO, Americans need to vote in someone else.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31140-5/fulltext
  • Metaphysician Undercover
    7.1k

    And how is this not fake news? We've been seeing this type of report for years. Has it taken you this long to notice?
  • Metaphysician Undercover
    7.1k

    You seem to be in the loop, perhaps you can answer this question. Why are the tides turning against Trump? Is it because what the Russians really want is instability in the US, and Trump is just a pawn?
  • ssu
    2.5k
    The blatant corruption of this administration is staggering.Michael

    In this situation I hope you share my optimism and think that Donald Trump will be the absolute worst US President in our lifetime.

    (And I assume we both do see many US presidential elections still)
  • 180 Proof
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    So our "morbidly obese" Commander-in-Bleach is daily dosing hydroxychloroquine ... IF TRUE, goooood.

    :mask: vs :death:
  • Benkei
    3k
    Looking forward to Pence that much? :razz:
  • 180 Proof
    1.2k
    ↪180 Proof Looking forward to Pence that much? :razz:Benkei
    Hell yeah! - praise jeezus :halo: :pray:
  • ssu
    2.5k

    Yes, what's with that?

    The only thing I can figure is that Trump or the Trump family has a personal financial gain in the selling of hydroxychloroquine, that they were somehow in the deal. I really don't believe otherwise Trump would be so enthusiastic and persistent in the promotion of the "miracle-drug". In fact, when going so far to fire people who have cautioned about the use of hydroxychloroquine:

    Dr. Rick Bright, former director of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, alleges he was reassigned to a lesser role because he resisted political pressure to allow widespread use of hydroxychloroquine, a malaria drug pushed by President Donald Trump. He said the Trump administration wanted to “flood” hot spots in New York and New Jersey with the drug.

    “I witnessed government leadership rushing blindly into a potentially dangerous situation by bringing in a non-FDA approved chloroquine from Pakistan and India, from facilities that had never been approved by the FDA,” Bright said Tuesday on a call with reporters. “Their eagerness to push blindly forward without sufficient data to put this drug into the hands of Americans was alarming to me and my fellow scientists.”

    Someone as lazy as Trump wouldn't do anything without personal gain. Trump personally has a small investment (1000$) in the pharma giant that makes the drug he's been pushing to fight COVID-19. Still, the US government has ordered 29 million doses of the malaria drug (see article) and there has been some hassle over these purchases (see here).
  • Echarmion
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    The only thing I can figure is that Trump or the Trump family has a personal financial gain in the selling of hydroxychloroquine, that they were somehow in the deal. I really don't believe otherwise Trump would be so enthusiastic and persistent in the promotion of the "miracle-drug".ssu

    It is odd. The normal Trump strategy would be to switch to some other miracle drug once discouraging evidence becomes undeniable. And then of course lie about ever being in favour of it in the first place.

    Though it cannot be discounted that Trump drank his own Kool-Aid and is actually personally convinced it's a miracle drug.
  • Frank Apisa
    1.8k
    In this situation I hope you share my optimism and think that Donald Trump will be the absolute worst US President in our lifetime.

    (And I assume we both do see many US presidential elections still)
    ssu

    At my age, I doubt I will see many more elections...but, like you, I hope Trump is never surpassed as the absolute worst US President of ALL TIME.

    The thing I am most disdainful of, though, is not Trump...but rather that he still has enthusiastic supporters. I truly hope those supporters are never surpassed as the most damaging to the Republic.
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