That's the grand prize, not a prerequisite to begin the talks. — Hanover
He put that on the table, but it hardly means the exercises won't occur if there's not compliance by the North Koreans. — Hanover
A reckless and impulsive person doesn't win the presidency. — Hanover
If the point of the summit was to denounce Kim as evil personified in the fashion of typical American diplomacy, then it was a failure. — Hanover
Nothing has been given away. Everything said can be rescinded. — Hanover
We're on the first few feet of the marathon. — Hanover
Goodness. The British Board of Trade is sensing some injustice.AND THIS TIME GETS ALL THAT THEY WANT. — unenlightened
So then, zooming out further you might say this very situation where standard politics is problematized by the arrival of an interesting if unstable alternative is itself good. Maybe it opens up the conceptual space for imagining a type of politician who is the obverse of the obverses, so to speak. Who's good where Trump is bad and also good where a standard politician is bad.
Or there'll be a nuclear holocaust in Korea followed by WWIII and we all die. Who knows with Trump? :) — Baden
AND THIS TIME GETS ALL THAT THEY WANT. — unenlightened
Is the argument against the easing of hostilities based on the fact that Kim is a brutal dictator? Is it more about protecting the interests of the USA in the region? Perhaps some combination of these along with additional things? For me the initial goal should be the modest one of lessening hostilities by opening up dialogue. It's a positive first step; nothing more and nothing less. — Erik
Define what is "all they want". What have they got at this point and is it everything they have ever wanted?
You've made what appears to be a simplified conclusion so I presume your answer will be straight forward. — raza
So giving them "all they want" effectively only really equates to setting up talks and then talking. — raza
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