• Wallows
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    Yeah, no thanks. I don't need to be told that we have a pseudo-godfather as a president.
  • fdrake
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    Good mission statement.
  • tim wood
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    24 May 2019. Are folks paying attention to the news? What I cannot figure out is who is masterminding Trump's behaviour. Clearly he cannot be doing it. And the people who are and those who facilitate, the Kellyannes, the Sarah Saunders, now Barr, and a host of others: who is running them? Clearly they are not Americans, even if born and educated here, and I suspect they're not even that. Or under the veneer of this culture is there a monstrous subculture? Trump is pushing so hard that impeachment looms as a simple necessity. But he has been doing so much damage even that in itself is only a step towards repair.

    It's common to suppose Trump is someone who cannot: cannot tell the truth, cannot accomplish anything, cannot do anything good, and so forth. But it has been apparent - to some people for a very long time - that he actually is accomplishing something, and that what he's accomplishing is towards a goal. We're the Titanic and that goal is a lethal iceberg concealed by a dark night - and our captain knows where it is, what it is, and he is steering right for it. And among the evils of this iceberg is that we will sink by degrees. Pay attention in the near future to the play of abortion rights, attempts to limit the first amendment and criminalize certain kinds of journalism. And watch how federal judges react - and The Supreme Court. It's them and Congress and the law. If those fail, then it will be time for a Jeffersonian remedy. To my way of thinking all of this is much more serious, dangerous, and dark than media has the capacity to correctly and accurately represent.
  • Metaphysician Undercover
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    Or under the veneer of this culture is there a monstrous subculture?tim wood

    Yes, anarchists.
  • Fooloso4
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    What I cannot figure out is who is masterminding Trump's behaviour.tim wood

    The stable genius is at best of average intelligence but he has a knack for promoting his own self-interests. To this end he has aligned himself with Fundamentalist Evangelical leaders, big business capitalists, and anti-government idealists (many of whom are Evangelicals or billionaire capitalists or both). Although they have some common interests, I do not think there is a mastermind.
  • tim wood
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    But Trump is remarkably consistent with making particular decisions that are destructive - even beyond chance. And those decisions, which I do not believe he authors, much less truly himself cares about, are funneled to and through him. Do they originate with a many? Whose idea was it to separate children, and then neglect to track them? No one could be that stupid and immoral, so we must attribute purpose and motive. And so on across the board. What's the sum? Confusion, a general weakening, and erosion of belief in American values and liberties. The whole method is consistent with at least old soviet techniques of subversion and fifth-columnism.

    The outer techniques are lies so persistent and relentless and even brazen and absurd that they poison the ground even for the truth. The creation of false enemies, the demonization of groups and organizations, and on and on. All this of a comprehensiveness that requires if not a master-mind, then a master plan. It must be Russian, or even the American Right. Where else could it emanate from? And even if the American Right, the Russians have found willing tools in them. I said "tools," more accurately fools - and traitors. Strong language, but show me how it is not appropriate.

    In 1919 the Treaty of Versailles was supposed to secure a permanent piece. A prescient few recognized it as a twenty-years armistice. Their voices were inconsequential against the next twenty years of applied ignorance, self-interest, short-sightedness, greed, denial, and finally stupidity. The lesson tor this time is that these same failings are at work today, but under the influence of masters at exploiting them.

    Trump's presidency is a call to arms for those who grasp the nature of the danger he represents. Our system is slow to turn, slow to react. In civil times a good thing - in a bad, not so much. But turn it must, and it will take a combined effort to turn it. It starts with federal judges and The Supreme Court blocking attacks on the legal side. Then impeachment and conviction, followed by criminal indictment and trial for criminal acts, and finally civil actions for wrongs committed, to hold those who committed them responsible. Just my fantasy? Is there a better way that will not do more harm than good? Is this a Cassandra voice?
  • Wallows
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    I predict a war with Iran before the end of his presidency.

    Someone hand me some Prozac and wine...
  • Wayfarer
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    Today's snippet - Trump Trusts Chairman Kim More than his own Staff.

    Why, oh why, do people keep standing by this guy when it routinely betrays them? The only two people in the world that Trump is unreservedly positive about are Putin and Kim. What is it going to take for the charade to be punctured?
  • Fooloso4
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    Whose idea was it to separate children, and then neglect to track them? No one could be that stupid and immoraltim wood

    I do not know the extent of Trump's involvement. What is clear is that he believes that problems can and should be resolved by a show of force. This is the same strategy he uses when it comes to foreign relations. He seems to have little concern for details. Let someone else do the dirty work.

    As to whether or not someone could be that stupid and immoral, it was done. How much was callous and deliberate and how much was negligence and incompetence I don't know. I think Trump believed that this or some other tactic of fear, pain, and intimidation, together would his wall, would put an end to the immigration problem. He prefers acting to thinking, and has surrounded himself with people who will act first and ask no questions. If there is a master plan, this is the extent of it.

    Trump's presidency is a call to arms for those who grasp the nature of the danger he represents.tim wood

    The problem is how to end his presidency without causing irreparable damage to the office itself.

    It starts with federal judges and The Supreme Court blocking attacks on the legal side.tim wood

    Unfortunately, he has appointed two Supreme Court justices and a significant number of federal judges. Although some will oppose him, he has managed to hijack the Republican Party and has closely aligned himself with conservatism; and so, they may be more willing to overlook his abuses then rule against him. In addition, the playbook of both Trump and conservative activists is to appeal everything they can to the Supreme Court. One would think there must be a tipping point, but with each step Trump takes that point recedes further away. If the courts do rule against him he will do everything he can to destroy them.
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