• Echarmion
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    The "both sides" refers to pro and anti statue.Nobeernolife

    No it doesn't. But we both know we can play this game forever, since you cannot prove that is what he meant, and neither can I. Unfortunately for you, you made the initial claim that CNN was lying, a claim you have failed to defend.

    I would have made a snarky remark about your reading comprehension, but after watching a few of Dr. Karlyn Borysenko video, I am starting to understand the TDS sufferers better. With your distorted filter, you really do see a different world than those of us who are not afflicted. Hope you get better sometime.Nobeernolife

    You know, the funny thing is that I knew perfectly well you'd pick up that one line about what Trump meant and try to debate me on it. I wondered if I should delete it, because it'd just give you an opportunity to change the topic to something where you can at least make some semblance of a plausible argument. But I figured you'd focus on it regardles, because clearly the injustice burns brightly in your heart. Talk about derangement syndrome.

    Anyways, just as a reminder: You didn't manage to defend any of your other supposed "lies" either. Perhaps you'd need to be more strict about truth and falsehood, but then of course a lot of the stuff Trump does would suddenly no longer be defensible...
  • Nobeernolife
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    Anyways, just as a reminder: You didn't manage to defend any of your other supposed "lies" either.Echarmion

    Your sophistry does not turn lies into true statements.

    On a related note, I am just reading that opinion research shows that only democratic voters believe that most reporters are simply trying to report the news in a non-biased fashion.

    I am NOT surprised....

    https://t.co/NDMKltU8Su
  • ZzzoneiroCosm
    798
    a related note, I am just reading that opinion research shows that only democratic voters believe that most reporters are simply trying to report the news in a non-biased fashion.Nobeernolife

    Nowhere in the link you provided does it say a word about Democrat v. Republican voters. Can you provide a Rasmussen quote for non-subscribers?
  • Echarmion
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    Your sophistry does not turn lies into true statements.Nobeernolife

    And your continued lack of a substantive response speaks for itself.

    But yes, I was doing sophistry. I think it did a fine job of illustrating the absurdity of your standards for truth and lies. Also I won, which is nice.

    I am NOT surprised....Nobeernolife

    And I am not surprised you repeatedly post the same thing because you apparently are so happy about it.
  • Nobeernolife
    556
    Nowhere in the link you provided does it say a word about Democrat v. Republican voters. Can you provide a Rasmussen quote for non-subscribers?ZzzoneiroCosm

    You can see a snapshot of the relevant question on the Rasmussen Twatter page, unless the censors have removed it already:
    https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1244240182930550784
  • Baden
    9.6k


    Specifically only in relation to Trump and specifically in relation to helping to block or pass his agenda. Hardly a surprise that more Republicans think the media is trying to block Trump's agenda, is it? So this:

    On a related note, I am just reading that opinion research shows that only democratic voters believe that most reporters are simply trying to report the news in a non-biased fashion.Nobeernolife

    is a lie. You presented no evidence for the above. But this is typical of the right-wing Reddit brigade, lie, lie, lie and then blame CNN and the MSM for spreading fake news.

    What's even worse about this lie is that according to the very same research you now linked to, a plurality of Dems don't trust the political news they are getting, which strongly implies that in general, they don't believe that most reporters are simply trying to report the news in a non-biased fashion. Exactly the opposite of your claim.
  • Relativist
    1.3k

    The wording in the survey was problematic. These 2 questions were asked:
    1* Do you trust the political news you are getting?

    2* When they write or talk about President Trump, are most reporters trying to help the president pass his agenda, block the president from passing his agenda, or are they simply interested in reporting the news in an unbiased manner?


    Consider a Democrat who believes political news reporting is not fully trustworthy. (answers "no" to the first question), but does not believe "most reporters" are either helping to pass, nor helping to block, Trump's agenda AND they believe there is some bias in the media.

    There's plenty of bias in the media, in both political directions but also in terms of sensationalism. That bias toward sensationalism helped Trump get elected: every bombastic thing he said as a candidated received air-time.
  • Baden
    9.6k


    It's a stupidly worded survey. But it's not too difficult to disentangle the two questions.

    A. The first is a general question and the second is specifically about Trump.
    B. The first asks about whether the news is trustworthy in a general sense. The second asks about pro and anti-Trump bias for the specific purposes of passing or blocking Trump's agenda.

    There is zero issue with not trusting political news in general but not believing that most reporters are actively trying to block or pass Trump's agenda.

    For example:

    1) It's possible to mistrust the majority of political news but still trust the majority of news about Trump.
    2) It's possible to mistrust the majority of news and mistrust the majority of news about Trump but still not believe that the majority of journalists are actively biased one way or the other against Trump.
    3) It's possible to mistrust the majority of news and mistrust the majority of news about Trump and even believe that the majority of journalists are actively biased one way or the other against Trump, but still not believe that they are trying to help block or pass his agenda.

    Etc.
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