.…consciousness is the way information feels when being processed in certain complex ways.
.We don’t yet know what principles information processing needs to obey to be conscious, but concrete proposals have been made that neuroscientists are trying to test experimentally.
.Enter the Buddha, who states in "The Path" of the Dhammapada the following:
All created things are impermanent.
All the elements of Being are Non-Self.
He relates his version of "folk psychology" in which he outlines the skandhas which are the shifting and impermanent bundle of elements whose aggregate is called a personality, or "Self". For the Buddha - the "self", or "I", does not exist as his enlightenment contained the revelation that we are naught but a constantly changing collection of body parts, thoughts, emotions, perceptions, and sensations in a certain place and at a certain time and each element as well as the ever-changing aggregate endure only for a limited time.
.In Buddhist metaphysical philosophy, "Emptiness", or denial of the intrinsic reality or nature of things, is the same application of tearing apart all elements of a "thing" to search for its "thing-ness" and coming up empty, so to speak. Buddhist emptiness denies any essence, or nature, or intrinsic reality of things in the world. So, along with the "self", Buddhism denies true existence to just about anything and everything.
As regards the meaning of anātman (no-self) in Buddhism - it is a subtle subject. Notice that at the outset, the Buddha doesn’t deny there is a self - but he also doesn’t affirm it. When asked point blank, ‘does the self exist?’, the Buddha is silent 1. — Wayfarer
Yes, at the end of lives (or at the end of this life, if you don’t believe in reincarnation), there will come a time when you won’t know that there ever was such a thing as identity, time, or events. But, for now, you’re you, just like you were yesterday. Sorry, Buddhists. — Michael Ossipoff
the argument seems to rely on a specific interpretation of the solution to the Sorites paradox. — BlueBanana
That is my (current) understanding. Would you agree with that way of thinking? — Uneducated Pleb
There is a list of hidden premises in the way that Descartes chose the words "think" in relation to "am", which led to its eventual downfall. — Uneducated Pleb
I do not believe in the reincarnation of a soul or essence, etc.
..I would hesitate to call myself a materialist but on many positions I do side with them and so have been accused of being one.
.Quick word about "my conditioning" as well - conditioning is that way or the aggregate states of being that is expressed currently through the results of past experiences, training, genetics, status, parental guidance, friendships, education (or lack thereof), environment, etc. Am I my conditioning?
I would also like to invite you to doubt your assertion that "for now, you’re you, just like you were yesterday.". I would like to list a few reasons why we can doubt that at certain levels -
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1. My cells are not all the same as they were yesterday at this time. Ones still operating are now older and riddled with the effects of getting older, others have died, others are brand new today but with some potential genetic difference due to errors or the environment.
.2. I have since had more and different experiences from this time yesterday which, at the very least subconsciously, have changed the aggregate of how I think and act. Maybe it is subtle, but every experience changes us as there is information that has been added about, for, and to my existence.
.3. If I burned all the tips of my fingers off - I would no longer have the same fingerprints, so am I still "me"?
.Are my fingerprints me? My hair color? My biological age?
.4. What constitutes the "now" in the "for now, you're you"? Was it then? Is it now when I am writing this or then - when I wrote the first post?
.5. If I was in an accident and suffered damage to my frontal cortex, or damage to my amygdala, or my hippocampus so that my behaviour was no longer typical of my previous days - am I no longer "me"?
.I would no longer be able to control behaviour, or regulate emotion to the same degree, or perhaps not even remember that there was a "yesterday". Are my memories "me"? My emotions? My plans to tackle a meeting or article? Are those ways of being or states of being "me"?
.6. Who am I if I legally or informally changed my name? Am I my name?
."for now, you're you" is a construct of language that creates a reification of all the ways to frame sets of phenomena that is interpreted socially, culturally, digitally, biologically, etc. as an entity or being.
How do you know what you claim to know? How do you know you are not being deceived? Descartes threw away all of his beliefs in order to peel away the deceptions and arrived at the very bedrock of his web of beliefs. The basic belief that he exists as a thinking being which cannot be doubted, for in order to doubt it there must be a thinking being that exists in order to doubt. — Uneducated Pleb
If we rest assured that "I think, therefore I am" then our base is once again knocked out from underneath us as we have uncovered, thanks to the Buddha and Eubulides, that within that statement lies a hidden premise which appears to be false - that there is in fact an "I" that thinks. "I" is a shortened description of the collection of elements (whose relations constantly shift and change and come into and go out of existence as time passes) which is then represented with "I". Thinking is only one element of what is considered "I". Can my thinking happen without my form? Can my thinking happen without a perception or sensation or referent to start the thought? — Uneducated Pleb
Second, if one is asking the question to someone else outright, one has not realized the first part, and one is clinging to the idea of "self" as a single reified construct or inherent essence. The nuance of how "self" is seen to exist is not yet realized or otherwise beyond the set of the practitioners current capability. To answer outright for that type of questioner would be to hinder their (in this case Vacchagotta's) eventual release from the clinging to the reified-construct-as-self. From the point of view of the one who realizes "no self", the questioner is asking from a place where the self is a concrete thing, which either exists or it doesn't. — Uneducated Pleb
"for now, you're you" is a construct of language that creates a reification of all the ways to frame sets of phenomena that is interpreted socially, culturally, digitally, biologically, etc. as an entity or being. — Uneducated Pleb
.How is the term "you", when applied to that which is framed as "Uneducated Pleb", different than the term "you" applied to the framing of properties that is "Michael"?
.Example - How can your name also be "Michael" when there was someone who has already lived and died in the 1700's and their name was "Michael"?
.You are not the other Michael, but you share the same particular framing as it comes to the term/name of "Michael" - but that is as far as that contingent framing goes. The name is part of a singular concept of identity (social framing of a property) above and beyond the properties each contained within multiple individual "Michael's" throughout spacetime. So are you an "archetypal" Michael?
.Or are you Michael Ossipoff? Are you the only Michael Ossipoff now, or in the past, or forever into the future?
.If not, then is your identity contiguous with theirs?
.Yes, if we consider the name only as a reified concept, but for the entity which is addressing this page the answer would be no, you have different properties than others also termed/named Michael.
.Language games - You are Michael, but is Michael...you?
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