there are good arguments for the involvement of us humans in the establishment of reality,
— T Clark
Such as? — Wayfarer
Chomsky's criticism — Baden
But can't the same be said about talk of "the natural"? Is naturalism any less shifty than physicalism? — Leontiskos
I have a number of friends who would, if pressed, probably deny that there's anything out there except the physical world. But nor would they claim that you can use the fundamental entities of physics to explain macro-phenomena like economic behavior. — J
Not necessarily. We can construct a sort of "best we can do right now" position that would go: "Sure, we have loads of unanswered questions about how physical realities interact, and how they can be causally effective. But at the end of the (scientific) day, I'm betting that the answers will still fail to reveal anything beyond the physical. We have to wait and see, but my money is on physicalism." — J
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