For example, does anyone continuously hold a truth for how to speak? Does anyone continuously hold a truth for how they can ensure they never rob a bank? Etc. — Cidat
I would tend to agree. As Banno demonstrated there is nothing preventing us from seeing and uttering true statements. However, as theories get more complex and rely on increasing amounts of evidence the chance of error increases leading to what some call approximations to absolute truth. As a result we can hold truth as tentatively true awaiting either increasing confidence as they pass our tests or their falsification and replacement with better approximations.↪Cheshire Many probably have landed at absolute truths, but they probably either cannot communicate them or separate them from non-absolutely-true beliefs. — Cidat
Nothing it's redundant if anything. I think we could switch the two and still convey the same point. Which is basically that the option of denying the truth of the matter is irrational. But, the point of raising it is to highlight that there are in fact reasonable ways to qualify a truth and yet the way it's done seems arbitrary.What is added to necessity by saying it is absolute? — Banno
Simply put, it appears arguing for the validity of necessity for 15 pages could be hypocritical to dismissing the term "absolute" at a glance. — Cheshire
Noted, it was intended to highlight perspective not establish a state of affairs. I'm not threaten by the term, so I get a little casual with it.You might not want to toss the word "hypocritical" around with such abandon. — Banno
I agree. But, I don't think this means absolute doesn't carry any weight at all. If an absolute truth appeared in conflict with a statement I would automatically defer to the absolute truth. Or is that just restating the meaning of necessary. Not trying to evade the point.And most assuredly, they are not the same. — Banno
the truth of not robbing a bank may be valid today. — Apollodorus
↪Cheshire How does an absolute truth differ from a plain ordinary truth? — Banno
We usually speak of right or wrong, rathe than true of false, actions. — Banno
Whatever the most extreme level of certainty would be; denotes absolute certainty or truth. Whether the truth of the matter is critical to support a greater construction of implications determines whether it is necessary. So, unnecessary but equally true. — Cheshire
Certainty, or truth? They are not the same. To be absolutely certain is presumably to be without doubt, sure.
How does being absolutely true differ from just being true? Truth admits of degrees? — Banno
Quite possibly, "absolute truth" is a "continuously held truth", i.e. a truth that is always held to be a truth. — Apollodorus
Last bit first.So you think something could not be absolutely true and yet unknown to us? We believe every absolute truth? — Banno
So you are setting "absolute truth" up to mean things that are true at every given time, as opposed to things that are true only at given times, and things that are true by necessity? — Banno
We maintain that belief in an absolute truth, should one be discovered, can not be rationally questionable. I believe there are unknown statements that could potentially be absolute truths. I believe there are statements we say we know that fall short of being absolute truths for one reason or another. It's mostly just a metaphysical furniture sale. — Cheshire
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