Considerations of cold and melanoma aside, I think there might be a re-ordering of some hierarchy in society. Clothing is somewhat of an equalizer. It is possible certain rankings might become more meritorious, rather than less. X would actually have to be X, instead of merely looking like X, if X were to maintain status as X. — James Riley
And what sort of vulnerability do we lose when armored up with clothing, hiding shame? Maybe cloths are like a gun, giving a person a somewhat false sense of security. Sure, the security might be somewhat real, but it’s still does not make one invulnerable. — James Riley
We do not need to go too far back in time to know what this would look like. Russia manged to maintain a borderline medieval society until the emancipation of the serfs in 1861. The serfs - kept uneducated, poor and subservient by the system - lived and died within walking distance of the place of their birth. According to historical records they had no compulsions about jacking it in public. — BigThoughtDropper
My opinion of the possibility of public nakedness and sexual intercourse is that it is a chaemera: no civilized ppl would allow such a thing, anymore than that they would countenance public defecation. Man wishes to exalt himself above the mere animal, and he has as his advocate God, who is above both him and mere animals. — Todd Martin
We really need to get everyone vaccinated and back on the streets, people are clearly getting way too horny — Maw
My guess is that public sex and nudity would be a lot less entertaining were it to become so common as to be unremarkable. When sex in the park is illegal, its criminal status gives it an extra frisson. — Bitter Crank
Sublimation of our libidinous drives is one of civilization's major inventions. Because we are not allowed to give free rein to physical urges, we channel that energy into productive activity -- work, in other words. — Bitter Crank
So free sex, drugs, and rock and roll would probably require a post-scarcity society. Don't quite know how to achieve that, especially without repressing many millions of carnal drives. — Bitter Crank
Why would it necessarily be obligatory or a dogma? Could it not be optional?
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Once something is deemed "normal", it eventually becomes the norm, obligatory. — baker
That is a distinct possibility. But like the mob boss said, “if you want to make an omelet, you gotta break some legs”.
Because STI's are such fun!
Don't just think chlamidya or HIV, think treatment-resistant tuberculosis. — baker
It would be just another dogma, just another standard of behavior that would become normative and obligatory for all. — baker
And sexually transmitted infections would have a field day, obviously. — baker
But the consensus seems to be that all such is ὀβ σκένα, obscene, off-stage, to be performed out of sight of audience. — tim wood
I suspect this was all worked out in primitive cultures large and small a long time ago. As such, what we all do is much informed by what they did do and what they decided they didn't want to do, or see, for reasons good and sufficient to them. And all of that gets tested from time to time, the boundaries pressed to see how firm they are at a given time and place. — tim wood
50% of the population of the "greatest" country in the world are deathly afraid of a lot of things. Communists, Mexicans, black people, the Chinese... — Benkei
So the entire content of the RNC was: Trump Is The Best. No policy, no ideas, no content other than fear-mongering and a cavalcade of lies and delusions — Wayfarer
I've wondered how "lesser evil efficacy" would measure against "evil gridlock." — Kevin
Yes, it’s so simple a child could figure out the future of the USA. Don’t know why that even have an age requirement to vote.I think you're over complicating the issue. — Philosophim
And they will promise to leave without a fuss, clearing the way for REAL change, rather just than not having a certifiable maniac exhibiting the Dark Triad in office? (Though getting the criminals out of office is better than nothing. Lock ‘em up!).1. Doesn't have to be 8 years of Biden/Harris. You can just make it 4 — Philosophim
That’s a common cliche. Everyone in the country has skin in this game. Perhaps everyone in the world. That’s how it goes with Empires, and their rigged elections. Only two options? In times like these? Really? Seriously?If you don't make a choice, you have no skin in the game. — Philosophim
I asked for advice. Good advice is preferable, if you happen to have any to spare.You sound like you don't like others telling you what to do. — Philosophim
I already said: Sanders/Warren as write-in.Vote for the lesser evil if you find no positives. — Philosophim
There will be evil either way, of different kinds. But don’t worry, I think I’d have a stroke if I tried to vote for Chump, lol. :mask:Otherwise you may end up with what you know in your heart is the greater evil, and and have to deal with that for the next four years. — Philosophim
The basic problem is that Americans believe as if a God-like President would somehow descend into the White House and somehow create change with everything else in the representative system being in control with the two corrupt parties.
It won't work. Never will. But every Presidential candidate will surely say that they, as President, will surely change things! — ssu
The only way, hard but can happen surprisingly quickly, is to work through the representative system (in the way it is designed to work) starting from the municipal level, then the state level and finally through the national level from Capitol Hill, not the White House. The US President cannot do anything else than bomb some miserable Third World country. Anything else he basically has to go through the House and the Senate. So that's your Presidency. — ssu
But do vote, that's the important thing. — ssu
You doing nothing else than making one day more miserable to some postal workers who likely will get fired after the elections with sending that dead fish. And you are also waisting the calories that you or your cat (or your neighbors cat) might have gotten from eating that fish, so even the fish goes to waste. — ssu
Just stop thinking that YOU HAVE TO vote for one or the other duopoly parties. Genuinely look if there is a third party you think reeks less than the two ruling parties and vote for them. Voting simply improves the health of your representative government. — ssu
So why ought any of us care what you think? — creativesoul
At least act like to understand Bernie... seeing how you claim to be a supporter. Clearly you do not grasp what he has stood for all these years.
You wanna know what to do. Ask Bernie. — creativesoul
It seems increasingly likely that, after 4 more years of Trump, there will not be another election that deserves the name. — Echarmion
. Rather because the powers that be in the GOP seem to have decided that now is as good a time as any to do away with having to deal with the opinions of poor people. — Echarmion
Let's do a clearly better or clearly worse comparison (emphasis on clearly), B/H and predecessors. Starting with Truman. You decide. — tim wood
Vanilla is all there is. And vanilla is a) actually pretty good, and b) has potential with add-ins.
I do not think Biden is good for eight years. He may even not be good for one. Harris as president? That does not seem a necessarily bad thing to me. And we know you wanted strawberry, but that's not an option. — tim wood
Aww gee, Dad... do I GOTTA? You didn’t make Wally vote for Biden! :razz: Thanks for the smug advice! No sale this time, sorry. Try again if you’d like.get over yourself, grow up, vote for Biden-Harris — tim wood
if you care as you claim to — tim wood
Trump, though, has refused additional (much-needed) funding. — Michael
Nope. It’s just a conspiracy theory. — NOS4A2
It's official, the US is a banana republic. — Benkei
Is Harris perfect? Is Jesus on the ballot? Are you on the ballot? — tim wood
It seems to me that in this election the Democrats have all the truth, reality, facts, and even character, judgment and good will on their side. — tim wood
If I could have a wish, it would be that the US right would find its Jim Jones and have their own Jonestown. — tim wood
Her selection as VP strikes me as long term strategy by the Democratic elite to forcibly insert her as new face(ade) of the progressive wing of the democratic party, purely through her identity as black woman rather than actual political positions, at the expense of actual progressive women and men of color, in order to retain control of the technocratic/corporatist wing of the party. Despite lackluster support during her presidential run, which ended, laughably, prior to the primary election, she'll be well positioned for a presidential run and retain power for the technocrats in 2024 or 2028 through 2036 at the latest potentially thwarting actual progressive/left-wing women of color (or anyone else for that matter). — Maw
Much better: referring me to something I didn’t know. — Mww