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  • Bannings
    Don't think the semantics matter enough to edit anything in the guidelines. Besides, yes, stating that women can't be equal to men is adopting a sexist belief by definition.
  • Bannings


    One post. See:

    "Racists, homophobes, sexists, Nazi sympathisers, etc.: We don't consider your views worthy of debate, and you'll be banned for espousing them."

    If there were some subtelty or ambiguity a pattern of behaviour would probably be necessary to make a judgement but there wasn't in this case.
  • Bannings
    Banned @Michael Zwingli

    Reason:

    I am an unrepentant misogynist. For me, the concept that a woman should be considered the equal of a man, if he is any kind of man, is simply fucking ludicrousMichael Zwingli
  • Rittenhouse verdict
    For me, the concept that a woman should be considered the equal of a man, if he is any kind of man, is simply fucking ludicrousMichael Zwingli

    I wasn't expecting that tbh, so therefore it wasn't entrapment. Banned.
  • Rittenhouse verdict


    Ah yeah, got it.



    If the dominant resident of Rittenhouse's skull is a bunch of contradictory trash he doesn't even understand himself then maybe we need to go a level up to get to a problem that can actually be addressed. Doesn't make him a victim, a hero, or a villian. Maybe he's just not worth talking about.
  • Rittenhouse verdict


    What about "lefties". Got any of them?
  • Rittenhouse verdict
    Don't think there's much point in trying to analyze Rittenhouse's psychology as if somehow we could find what he truly believes in his heart of hearts (probably he doesn't even know himself; most likely he's just a dumb kid with a gun and a distaste for lefties, one of many millions).
  • Rittenhouse verdict
    I myself am not particularly prejudiced against what are commonly called "black people", but I hold and cherish some very strong prejudices of other types, nonetheless.Michael Zwingli

    Who don't you like, Jews? Arabs? Homosexuals? The Dutch?
  • Rittenhouse verdict
    The bottom line here is that Rittenhouse stands in opposition to what you believe inHanover

    I'm abstracting that out. I don't think heavily armed BLM members should be allowed police Trump (or Klan) rallies either. Their presence would also likely be considered a threat and provoke violence. End result the same. You can't do that where I come from. Be like us.
  • Rittenhouse verdict


    If he's not guilty (of anything) maybe you should revisit your laws as the precedent of allowing heavily armed self-styled militia onto the streets to kill people in conflicts they themselves provoke through the threat of their presence seems a bad one.
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion
    One other thing, you can update your story (send me a new message or file) up until the deadline for submissions. After that, I'll be loathe to change anything except in exceptional circumstances. (If you do update, please use the same PM thread or things could get confusing.)
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion
    Yes, as mentioned before, if you want special formatting included, you'll need to include a file with markup (text file would be fine). What you send will be copy pasted into an OP with rare exception. Just don't have the time to format everyone's story manually.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)
    Just 'cos I've got Ebola, smallpox and leprosy (having a bad disease day) doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed down the pub. Muh rights!
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)
    We agree. Maybe somewhere people are voting for these policies, but none that I have seen.NOS4A2

    If these policies had no support, it would be political suicide to pursue them. Only it hasn't been. Why? Because regardless of what you've seen a majority of the public are still broadly behind strong anti-covid measures (e.g. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/coronavirus-polls/ ). We can reasonably infer from that they don't consider them a violation of basic human rights. Until that changes (and I'm not saying it won't), there's no reason to think those in charge are going to change track and no democratic way to make them change track, is there?
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)
    but the puerile and weak solution is to let the state dictate how to solve itNOS4A2

    You're starting to sound confused about whether fascism is the problem or the solution. We're agreed policy change needs to happen democratically or not?
  • The Shoutbox
    I think that's like saying that discrimination against the Irish will reassert itselfT Clark

    We live in hope. :pray:
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    More referring to the psychological genesis of the "fascism" hysteria, counterproductive as it is, seeing as such hyperbole obfuscates genuine concerns and makes you look precious and weak. A stronger foundation could be had by at least acknowledging there's a problem that governments are trying to solve here and that problem is not "How can we oppress NOS more?".
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    How about seatbelt fascism, another bugbear of the anti-collective collective? Wonder if we can trace the roots of this oxymoronic group back to mommy and eat-your-greens fascism?
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)
    I’m already not a part of any collectiveNOS4A2

    A fine sartorial ambition to be unliveried but your customary apparel suggests otherwise, no?
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion
    I think the occupation of Hungary happened on a Tuesdaygod must be atheist

    Confirmed!
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion


    Thought that was Pancake Tuesday? :chin:
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion


    A silver lining... :razz:



    Let's say the 23rd. Give everyone a month and have them up for that day that shall not be named. :grin:
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion
    By the looks of it, there's some dissatisfaction with the original method of voting and also some dissatisfaction with the changes proposed, so I suppose I'll leave things, imperfect as they are, and I hope it doesn't put anyone off contributing.

    Accepting stories now, have two so far. Keep them coming. :up:
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion
    Like a king after hearing from his council of advisors.jamalrob

    That's pretty much the look I was going for. :cool:

    One more thing I'll say is that while the voting systems proposed by 180 Proof and @Hanover look good, I suspect they'll result in fewer votes than a pinned poll. Many people wouldn't bother, if it meant they had to send a PM or vote for every story separately.jamalrob

    That's a fair concern.

    Yeah I agree; I'm more interested in a higher voter turnout than a system that allows the TPF faithful to vote with more nuance while isolating any potential casual voters. I don't understand the desire for more nuance. I may not even contribute a story this time around.Noble Dust

    There's not yet a strong demand for change anyhow, unless there is, we're going to stick with the original method.
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion
    I liked my original voting system suggestionHanover

    If memory serves, you were simultaneously ignored and pilloried for whatever you came up with, so it's probably best forgotten.
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion


    If we go this way, maybe we could both do it to help confirm the result. But, informally then, what does the crowd want? Please register your preference between 180's suggestion and the orginal voting method below and let that be the final determination. I'll give it a day or so and then go with whichever gets the most support.
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion


    I'll give it another day or two. Unless some alternative emerges that's easy to implement and is supported by a majority of the contributors here, I'll do that, realizing it won't please everyone, but it's primarily about having a bit of festive fun so no need to sweat it imho.
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion
    So the progress here is in the direction of further confusion or... ? Do I need to appoint a new dictator to organize how we vote or might our philosophical felines reassemble and actually make a collective decision on how to proceed?
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion


    Let's use that then. "Christmas" I used out of habit rather than thought.
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion
    Btw, is it exclusive to call it the "Christmas" short story competition? I'm not wedded to the name if people care.
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion


    Then I forward the data to my serf, Hansover, who, straining the capacities of his petrified brain, counts everything up and delivers the results. OK. :up:

    ... I will go along with whatever consensus others reach here as an antidote to my previous dictatorial stance so long as said consensus is not unbearably awkward to enact.
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion


    Sounds cool. Benkei would love it. :cheer:
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion


    Might be detrimental to quantity and quality of entrants though. Plus, I used up my Christmas story already.
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion
    You guys work it out. As long as Hanover gets to pick the method that involves me doing the most work, I'm right behind it all. :ok:
  • Holiday Short Story Competition Discussion


    Close... The actual suggestion of weighted voting last time round would allow for that. Or at least for more votes of second than first to win.
  • The Shoutbox
    it seems clear to me that responders to an OP have a responsibility to address the issue as the OP sets it up and not to go off on a tangent of their ownT Clark

    Yes.

    Reciprocally, I have always understood that the person who starts the discussion has the authority to enforce the OPT Clark

    Not directly. But we can enforce it for you.
  • Short Story Competition Discussion


    Think I promised something for Christmas . Silly me...
  • Short Story Competition Discussion


    Hehe, that was one of two songs I remember listening to today after you posted that but before I read it. The other one I dedicate to @Hanover.