Yes. And it is important for a group to protect itself against others who seek its own annihilation.

Yes— like the Palestinians, for example. Israel would like to annihilate them.

Israel could annihilate them at any point. Yet it does not. Israel has nukes, chemical weapons, yet it restrains itself.

Surely if it sought to exterminate the Palestinians it would start with the Palestinians within its own borders, no?

PKK declares ceasefire in 40-year conflict with Turkiye
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/1/pkk-declares-ceasefire-in-40-year-conflict-with-turkiye-kurdish-media

Surely if it sought to exterminate the Palestinians it would start with the Palestinians within its own borders, no? — BitconnectCarlos

The genocide in Gaza is enough. This has been a goal for decades.

yet it restrains itself. — BitconnectCarlos

It has to cover its actions so that people like you stay placated and complicit. Like every state that’s committed atrocities in history.

If you knew your history -- if history actually mattered to you -- you would know that the Palestinians are colonizers. So Israel retaking land in Gaza or the West Bank is quite literally decolonization, and decolonization can sometimes be a bloody process as the colonizer entrenches themselves in the land and openly attempts to continue their colonization in the form of the chant "free Palestine."

That is utter bullshit. The Jews lost Israel twice now. It'll happen again. They'll lose it and never get it back again.

They could lose it 20x. Doesn't change the fact they are the indigenous inhabitants. Nor does it change the fact that Palestinianism is simply a front for Islamic expansion - a far greater and more dangerous force than Israel.

In a couple hundred years Israel will be a desert due to climate change. Just as there is no state of the Sahara, there will be no state of Israel. It will be a desert for about 2000 years. Jews will move to Canada and Greenland where they will finally be assimilated. The state of Israel and Judaism will be fixtures of history texts.

You seem like you're in a vengeful mood.

Hundreds of Alawites, Kurds and Shia killed in Syria these past couple days and the world could not seem to care less.

Palestinians are colonizers — BitconnectCarlos

:lol:

Yes, we already know how warped you are. Thanks for the reminder though. Keep fighting the good fight of defending a genocide because the right people are carrying it out. :up:

Palestinians — BitconnectCarlos

The term is also essentially meaningless these days. Anyone living in historical Palestine is technically a Palestinian. So Benjamin Netanyahu is a Palestinian. For very nefarious reasons the term has simply come to mean "non-Jew living in historical Palestine."

You seem like you're in a vengeful mood. — BitconnectCarlos

Maybe. My point was the Jewish right to Israel will soon be the right to an uninhabitable desert. All the killing will have been vanity.

“More than a human can bear”: Israel's systematic use of sexual, reproductive and other forms of gender-based violence since 7 October 2023

The stuff of nightmares, and unfortunately only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Israel's long track record of human rights violations and crimes against humanity.

Note that this doesn't just cover the atrocities in Gaza, but also in the West Bank.

Has the HRC posted anything on the abduction and murder of Israeli families? Or of the sexual abuse and torture of Israeli hostages? How dare Israel pursue the kidnappers.

The term is also essentially meaningless these days. Anyone living in historical Palestine is technically a Palestinian. — BitconnectCarlos

Was a Palestinian. But then, you know, some people there formed Israel and those people are called Israelis.

Was a Palestinian. But then, you know, some people there formed Israel and those people are called Israelis. — ssu

If "Palestine" refers to the geography, the physical land, then those born in Israel are born in Palestine. If "Palestine" is a political entity then it's not one that's ever existed as an independent nation.

You don't invent yourself these issues. Mandatory Palestine existed and then people there were called Palestinians. And once Isreal was formed, these ex-Palestinians became Israelis. So easy.

And once Isreal was formed, these ex-Palestinians became Israelis. So easy. — ssu

Not if they lived in an Arab section of Palestine. Or refused Israeli citizenship.

Exactly.

But seriously, even if Trump is a devoted ally of Israel, his delusional ideas don't actually help Israel. And imagine if Trump follows Elon's advice of getting the US out of NATO and the UN. How friendly place will the UN be for Israel without the US and with an Europe alienated from the US?

You make reasonable points, but I do love what Trump is doing here in the US. My more immediate concern is American elite universities and dealing with these masked jihadists who terrorize Jewish students. The enemy of the Jews (and western civilization) couldn't be any clearer at this point. And it's nice that Trump is generous with the weapons shipments.

but I do love what Trump is doing here in the US. — BitconnectCarlos

Oh, so you love also the trade war and the tariffs you'll pay?
Not caring so much about the separation of powers in a republic?

Just asking.

Canada was already imposing tariffs on us so I believe Trump's tariffs were retaliatory. I also love that Trump is embracing digital currencies.

I don't see Trump as a dictator currently. If we can't deport illegal immigrants and those who come here on visas and then seek to destroy America then what's the point of even having an immigration regulations? It's long overdue. Security is the primary function of any state.

, you believe so?

Trump's trade war timeline 2.0: An up-to-date guide (PIIE)

An overview of the lot suggests differently.
There goes the AUSFTA as well...

Canada was already imposing tariffs on us so I believe Trump's tariffs were retaliatory. — BitconnectCarlos

No, NOBODY HAD TARIFFS against you like idiot Trump has now done.

This Tariff bullshit is ALL OF TRUMP'S DOING. Nobody was so foolish as Trump to think that tariffs would bring prosperity. He had to invent this would be an "emergency", because of the fentanol from Canada, which was a tiny fraction compared to what comes from Mexico, one fucking suitcase.

And just think for example of aluminium. It's basic a metal done with electricity and when producing . Well, Canada has ample amounts of hydroelectricity production, hence it's naturally cheaper to produce aluminium in Canada and the country now produces three times more aluminium than the US.

So now you have this epic wisdom of Trump that let's make everything cost more, so there would sprout more domestic production. Well, what you will be having is just paying the high fucking cost that hopefully then is met by American production that totally is dependent on the trade barriers, because it cannot compete in the global arena. That is just simply foolish!

International trade creates prosperity. Mercantilism, basically what Trump is after, doesn't work so well.

Please, wake up!

↪BitconnectCarlos, you believe so? — jorndoe

I hope he doesn't believe so. But.... I guess you are right.

You seem mad for some reason. As if my opinion on tariffs has any impact whatsoever. Even if I were against the tariffs, I would still be pro-Trump.

I get that certain metals like steel or aluminum can be produced cheaper elsewhere, but cost isn't the only factor. We simply can't be outsourcing all of our metals production overseas because it's just too big of a national security risk. There must be some amount of domestic production.

There's also the fact of countries like China manipulating their currency to make their exporters more competitive. And Canada does tariff some of our products very highly.

I agree with you that, by and large, free markets are good. International trade is good because it allows consumers access to lower prices. I use to be more dogmatic on this point, but now I do tariffs as being necessary in some cases. Lower costs to the consumers are nice, comparative advantage is nice... but it's not the only factor.

We simply can't be outsourcing all of our metals production overseas because it's just too big of a national security risk. There must be some amount of domestic production. — BitconnectCarlos

A great opportunity for Trump to build some plants. In the name of National Security. :up: For that matter, there's a crowd of very rich folks right behind him.

We simply can't be outsourcing all of our metals production overseas because it's just too big of a national security risk. There must be some amount of domestic production. — BitconnectCarlos

An even bigger risk is suddenly making enemies of the allies you depend upon without a plan.

You’ve just parroted Trump talking points. It’s all in his head, he’s been saying the same thing for 40 years. It was wrong then and it’s wrong now. Also are you cool with him invading Canada?

I would still be pro-Trump. — BitconnectCarlos

Why? How?