The most powerful governments in the world, US / NATO, China and Russia all are holding the world at nuclear gunpoint (and they should all be coloured pitch black).
I'd say that's supports my position, rather than undermines it. — Tzeentch
Where do you get the idea that the US has "very low measures of government coercion"? — Tzeentch
Is this your idea of a "low coercion" government? — Tzeentch
You are arguing that violence breeds violence. You are including in "violence" the sorts of government coercion involved in taxation, regulation and public sector work. — Isaac
My point is that powerful governments (which to exist must apply large amounts of violence) wreak the most destruction on mankind. — Tzeentch
The sort of coercive violence a government commits in imposing laws does not beget more violence. If it did you'd see a correlation between the size of government and the levels of violence. There is no such link. In fact it's moderately the opposite. — Isaac
You argued that, in my well-poisoning example, the people ought not coerce the well-poisoner with threat of violence because "violence begets violence". — Isaac
as governments have grown larger and more powerful over the course of history, their propensity for violence has likewise grown. — Tzeentch
There is no link between size of government and violence. — Isaac
Clearly there is, but you need to get the idea out of your head that the United States is somehow an example of a small government!
It's tendrils span the globe. There's not a larger government in the world. — Tzeentch
There are many larger governments in terms of spending, taxation, laws, public sectors, and government bodies per capita. — Isaac
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