• ucarr
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    Okay. We all know people can change, however, you view self as tilting towards stability & permanence.

    Is it correct to characterize you as being conservative?
  • baker
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    Okay. We all know people can change, however, you view self as tilting towards stability & permanence.ucarr

    The things that change about a person are not the self. The skin is not the self, the muscles, the skeleton, the body fat are not the self, the name is not the self, the clothes are not the self, the ideas the person entertains are not the self, the money the person posesses is not the self, etc. etc.

    Is it correct to characterize you as being conservative?

    The people who consider themselves conservatives typically do not consider me conservative.
  • ucarr
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    Do you align yourself with any position on the political spectrum ranging from radical to ultra conservative?

    Of what does the self consist?
  • baker
    5.6k
    Do you align yourself with any position on the political spectrum ranging from radical to ultra conservative?ucarr

    No.

    Of what does the self consist?

    That's what I've been asking you, since you're the one who brought it up.

    I'm saying what the self can't possibly be. A triangle cannot be a circle. Identity is something which, by definition, has to be stable, permanent, or it isn't identity.
  • ucarr
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    Do you give credence to the concept of soul? If you do, might that be a candidate for self?

    Do you discover what's extant by determining what cannot be eliminated?
  • baker
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    Do you give credence to the concept of soul?ucarr

    No.

    Do you discover what's extant by determining what cannot be eliminated?

    In some cases, yes. Selfhood is one such example.
  • ucarr
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    Of what does the self consist?.ucarr

    That's what I've been asking you, since you're the one who brought it up.

    I'm saying what the self can't possibly be. A triangle cannot be a circle. Identity is something which, by definition, has to be stable, permanent, or it isn't identity..
    baker

    Self – The enduring, discernibly consistent POV of a sentient being.ucarr
  • Agent Smith
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    Nietzsche's übermenschen goal is meant for everybody! It doesn't defend slavery; how can something meant for all be applied only to some?
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