The problem is, they have created the universe but are not omnipotent — EugeneW
don’t understand how you can say some beings have ‘good reason’ without knowing what he reason is? — I like sushi
So you are claiming that these gods are powerful enough to create a Universe and creatures such as us within it but they have no ability to physically manifest within it. — universeness
The idea that every fantasy story told by Marvel comics is true is more likely than your theistic posits. — universeness
That is just a story you made up. — I like sushi
don’t understand what truth has to do with a story in the sense you seem to be framing it? — I like sushi
I could tell you a story about how I lived in a giant shoe for a year but it doesn’t make the story rea — I like sushi
That doesn’t make it ‘true’ just useful to us in a certain way. — I like sushi
The obvious question is then what makes your story real and mine a fantasy — I like sushi
Precisely! They would disturb the natural order, their own creation. Once in a while they succeed but the message is mistaken always — EugeneW
How convenient! — universeness
The trouble with your windup hat, is that you are in danger of becoming just another theistic guy who cries 'wolf'/god when no wolf/god, ever appears, after a while, your shouts are ignored — universeness
My view is more like the Jungian view of the collective unconscious - we create the world we live in as much as the world creates us. The idea/archetype of ‘god’ is more or less the Heirophant (the process that delineates between them. — I like sushi
Is what I just said ‘true’? No. It is a theory of why we have a such strong impulses to believe in things like ‘god/s’ — I like sushi
so the ‘infinite’ and ‘eternal’ are not for me to comment upon much. — I like sushi
. We just seem to differ in what we define as ‘god — I like sushi
What is it that people are susceptible to that would cause such experiences? — Mike Radford
Some people take great reassurance from their trust in God. I don't think that we should necessarily disrespect that trust, even if we do not regard the object as reliable. — Mike Radford
In your reference to the Higgs Boson particular you are confusing propositions that are held as hypotheticals and those that are held as a matter of faith. — Mike Radford
The truth of philosophical propositions is not a matter of popular belief. Philosophy, like any other discipline, is not a matter of democracy. Those qualified to arbitrate on philosophical claims are those that have had some training in philosophy. — Mike Radford
On the more general matter of 'faith' or trust in humanity I have always been cautious when it comes to the kindness of strangers. Human beings are equally capable of great intelligence and great stupidity. — Mike Radford
Besides, they have shown themselves! Just look around you! All of life, all organisms. — EugeneW
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