An attempt at dramatic prose, not evidence of god. — universeness
repeat again, give Science the time and resources required to do this, meantime your are just engaging in panto talk. — universeness
When you have a cosmological eternal model, one cannot do other than conclude intelligences created it.
— EugeneW
Pure subject opinion, the atheist position rejects this so more panto exchange. — universeness
How do you know its woo woo?
— EugeneW
Do you really enjoy the panto exchange 'How do you know it isnt — universeness
Ok, contemplate your gods for me. Tell me about your feelings? — universeness
Likewise are the equations in physics, in the even more dramatically prose of math, said to be a universal language but only spoken by some, under the guise of the scientific clothes worn by the new priests......... — EugeneW
I think though that your view of gods is pretty subjective here! With such a god (God!) I can understand turning atheist! — EugeneW
The resulting music hurts my ears. — universeness
But you won't reveal any details of YOUR personal relationship with these entities you now claim to have a commlink with — universeness
I suppose I will just have to wait in anticipation of your 'report.'
I personally think YOUR god(s) come from YOUR ID (as in Freud).
Your god playthings and your personal presentation of YOUR god(s) are harmless and at best, for me, 'entertaining,' but I was hoping for a more meaningful exchange with you on the premise of the OP. — universeness
but I was hoping for a more meaningful exchange with you on the premise of the OP. — universeness
Sean Carroll made an interesting argument about God. He said suppose we lived in a world where children never suffered. The priests would be saying "look, clearly there is a God because we see how he protects the young ". Yet we don't live in that world. This argument for me takes down teleological arguments. What do you guys think? — Gregory
Sean Carroll made an interesting argument about God. He said suppose we lived in a world where children never suffered. The priests would be saying "look, clearly there is a God because we see how he protects the young ". Yet we don't live in that world. This argument for me takes down teleological arguments. What do you guys think? — Gregory
I see no path forward for us on this topic.
There is no common ground to build on — universeness
Sean Carroll made an interesting argument about God. He said suppose we lived in a world where children never suffered. The priests would be saying "look, clearly there is a God because we see how he protects the young ". Yet we don't live in that world. This argument for me takes down teleological arguments. What do you guys think? — Gregory
Thus such "theists" themselves render God irrelevant.
— baker
Well, without them we wouldn't exist. So they give meaning to all life. Their reasons for creating us were selfish but understandable. — EugeneW
you grateful to your god/s?
Do you express submission to your god/s?
Do you acknowledge that they were there before you and that they contextualize you? — baker
Many people claim to 'sense' the existence of a God. This is not the kind of formal empirical evidence used to justify scientific propositions but nevertheless it is perhaps some kind of psychological evidence of something. — Mike Radford
Just because I don't see it does not mean that it does not exist. — Mike Radford
If they were validated there would be no basis for faith — Mike Radford
Letting the readers act as arbiters might be a bit like letting the blind lead the blind! — Mike Radford
having a little more 'faith' — universeness
Connery? — Agent Smith
Serves dollops of faith to whoever the comment was directed to — Agent Smith
Give me an example of your deference to them — universeness
Explain your inconsistent relationship with that which YOU label god(s) — universeness
I think that the homonoid-gods should have been watched more carefully — EugeneW
What inconsistent relationship? — EugeneW
take it by homonoid god you mean those who looked like humans as opposed to being all animal or some hybrid of the two but who was 'watching them?' — universeness
You typed sometimes yes, sometimes no when baker asked you:
Are you grateful to your god/s?
Do you express submission to your god/s?
Your own answer suggests an inconsistent relationship with your gods. — universeness
I find your claim that you believe in god(s) less and less convincing. — universeness
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