Isn't inserting god/s into that hole what you do when you don't have an answer? It's using a mystery to explain a mystery? — Tom Storm
Question: Would the recent scientific discovery of dark energy, which is the mysterious force behind our universe expanding outward from a single point at an ever-increasing speed, be more logically an energy originating from an omnipotent power or from a finite power? — Joe Mello
Isn't inserting god/s into that hole what you do when you don't have an answer? — Tom Storm
How can dead particles, conforming to physical laws, have brought themselves into existence? — EugeneW
To me that's a rich issue. What is an explanation? There are various theories, but in this context I think it boils down to some kind of animism or anthropomorphism. The explanation has to be a personality, a divine intelligence (maybe also with a benevolent will.)Nice. I wonder why people think we have answers to the question, why is there a universe? — Tom Storm
Isn't inserting god/s into that hole what you do when you don't have an answer? It's using a mystery to explain a mystery? — Tom Storm
My theory is that we'll always be left with some unexplained 'it' in our grand narratives. It seems to me that you are willing to take certain eternal gods for granted, untroubled by the issue of where they came from. — lll
Only an eternal universe, without eternal gods having created it, seems meaningless. Despite all meaning we can internally assign. — EugeneW
I don't think we are the heads of some universal hydrabeast, using us to masturbate in its attempt to spawn new universes as it can't find a female companion. Or us being part of a universe retroactively collapsing the wavefunction and bringing itself in existence. Mind you, this would be even more outrageous than gods or dead particles only. — EugeneW
The meanings we assign are enough but not without that divine underlayer. — EugeneW
They started a research program to create and develop love and hate particles situated in a very special unique space. The universe is that unique result. Now they just watch us. The virus god, the squirrel god, tree god and whale god. Human gods contributed too, but fucked up a bit. — EugeneW
Curious. Is this more of an intellectual or an emotional dissatisfaction? Is it your mind that demands a metaphysics or your heart that demands divine empathy? — lll
lets the wonder return. — EugeneW
That's more or less what the short story is about. Gods being tired and bored of making love and hate eternally, longing to lay back in heavenly jungles to watch us play out the story they played so long themselves. — EugeneW
You can check out The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire to discover that Christianity was originally an offensive heresy that refused to tolerate the other religions already in place, like an only child who just would not share its toys — lll
Just as a point of interest, have you read Caesar's Messiah by Joeseph Atwill, or Creating Christ by J Valliant and W Fahey. Both these books posit that Christianity was invented by the Romans as was Jesus etc. — universeness
These people are experts in theology as they now reject it. — universeness
Question: Would the recent scientific discovery of dark energy, which is the mysterious force behind our universe expanding outward from a single point at an ever-increasing speed, be more logically an energy originating from an omnipotent power or from a finite power? — Joe Mello
No, referencing something that my adversaries have constructed is not at odds with my non-belief.
— Gregory A
— universeness
Yeah, even though based on the logic that you employ, you should not be doing so.
You have no belief in the spaghetti monster so you cant reference it. It would be illogical for you to do so based on your own application of logic.
Well, yes, I do see the massive flaws in how you form your belief system, I do get that.
If you lived in Russia right now and you listened to your beloved state TV channel, you would no doubt be singing Putin's praises. The words 'I've never believed anything other than the Warren commission's findings show that. So, you accept the 'magic bullet' theory then?
Well I'm glad I have the power to embarrass you, even if its inspired by your delusional thinking.
Yeah, keep tubthumping on your tin bath, see if the echo's progress your proposals?
Sometimes Internet trolls are legitimately mentally ill.
Do not give Eugene any personal information — Joe Mello
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