Hi! This is a pleonasm, since "vide" means see! :smile: (Trivial comment of course ...)See vide infra — TheMadFool
BTW, this is my quote. (Actually it's part of my description the topic). @praxis just quoted it ...If you are a mind or a soul, then why do you say 'my mind or my soul', 'I have a mind or I have a soul', and so on?" — praxis
How is "I'm not the body" implied from "My body such and such"?What they mean, what's implied — TheMadFool
I can find a few explanations for it: the guy might 1) have made a mistake, 2) believed that the bag contained a flse, 3) call 'flse' an 'apple' or 4) have tricked you. There' may be more ...the bag is empty and flse still hasn't been found. — TheMadFool
Maybe as a concept, and depending on how you define it. But never as YOU, yourself, the person, the identity, the living unit, the human being. YOU, TheMadFool, with whom I have this exchange. And YOU are not empty!Is the self an empty word? — TheMadFool
Are you an illusion? (I hope not, because I would have to imply that this comminication is also an illusion!)Is the self an illusion? — TheMadFool
In the body there is a lot to rub. What if I say that I am my body and I am in the middle of brain and physical world? The brain thinks for me. I dont think at all... — VerdammtNochMal
So, are you, are you in the middle of your brain — TheMadFool
Hi! This is a pleonasm, since "vide" means see! :smile: (Trivial comment of course ...) — Alkis Piskas
How is "I'm not the body" implied from "My body such and such"?
In fact, people "My body such and such" and they believe or claim that "I'm the body". This is what this topic has shown, since most people in here believe they are bodies. — Alkis Piskas
Maybe as a concept, and depending on how you define it. But never as YOU, yourself, the person, the identity, the living unit, the human being. YOU, TheMadFool, with whom I have this exchange. And YOU are not empty!
This is why I say that people are lost in concepts instead of seeing the obvious, using simple logic. They seem to trust concepts more than what they themselves can experience directly. This is really sad. — Alkis Piskas
This topic was simply about YOU, not the "self" as described in psychology and by the various philosophers through the ages. — Alkis Piskas
No. I'm between my brain and the physical brain. I am my body. I...AM...IN...BETWEEN. I let the the two (inner world and outer world) play and play along. A part of me is autonomous, luckily. The brain radiates into me (long dendrites) and the physical world has a grip too. Luckily. So who thinks? Not I! — VerdammtNochMal
Certainly.When you use "my" you are not the same as that which is yours. — TheMadFool
"Begging the question" means "to elicit a specific question as a reaction or response". What specific question are you referring to?You're begging the question — TheMadFool
You may not know who you are, that's OK, but I I am very certain that there is someone out there with whom I am conversing. That's where my "you" refers to.How can you say you're conversing with me when I made it clear to you I don't know who me is? — TheMadFool
No problem.Sorry about the previous remark. — TheMadFool
Oh, I see. Well, I have made it so clear that even a child could undestand it. (Please don't get offended by that. I always try to explain things in the most simple manner and with the simplest words, so that even a child can undestand. Of course, I know that this upsets all those who want to dive into an ocean of concepts just for intellectual pleasure or other personal reasons.)What's the difference? — TheMadFool
OK.I'm between my brain and the physical brain. ... — TheMadFool
Good luck for what? You keep saying that! I guess then that it's your motto! :smile:Good luck! — TheMadFool
This topic was simply about YOU, not the "self"..... — Alkis Piskas
I say that people are lost in concepts instead of seeing the obvious, using simple logic. They seem to trust concepts more than what they themselves can experience directly. This is really sad. — Alkis Piskas
You may not know who you are, that's OK, but I I am very certain that there is someone out there with whom I am conversing. That's where my "you" refers to. — Alkis Piskas
Oh, I see. Well, I have made it so clear that even a child could undestand it. (Please don't get offended by that. I always try to explain things in the most simple manner and with the simplest words, so that even a child can undestand. — Alkis Piskas
They stop existing too. But what exactly does that prove? — dimosthenis9
Mind requires brain and body for sure. But that doesn't also mean that mind is brain/body. You can't jump to that conclusion. — dimosthenis9
(I would prefer that you responded to the whole topic than picking up stuff from here and there. Anyway, I guess this is better than nothing at all ...)Doesn’t simple logic suggest any “you” represents a “self”? — Mww
Do you consider youself, a person a human being something arbitrary? Do you consider the abtract concept of "self" something more concrete than YOU, yourself, the TPF member with the username @Www, the one who has written that comment and with whom I commuincate at this moment?when the topic is about some arbitrary YOU — Mww
A lot! More than you can think of! (Hint: It has to do with realization, not concepts)What affirmation would I gain from being informed “how simple YOU is”? — Mww
If you are a mind or a soul, then why do you say 'my mind or my soul', 'I have a mind or I have a soul', and so on?"
— praxis
BTW, this is my quote. (Actually it's part of my description the topic). praxis just quoted it — Alkis Piskas
I can't say. You are mixing matter with ideas with actions ... You have to group them at least by kind!What happens, when I die, to my voice, my gait, my verbal tics, my habits? My interests and passions? My duties? My laziness? — Srap Tasmaner
Hint: It has to do with realization, not concepts — Alkis Piskas
What is the difference between having a brain and a body but no mind, and having a brain and a body and a mind? — Srap Tasmaner
For me human brain generates/or interacts with something clearly non psychical (mind). — dimosthenis9
Continuing to discuss this subject cannot and will not lead anywhere.Who/what is this someone you're conversing with? — TheMadFool
when the topic is about some arbitrary YOU
— Mww
Do you consider youself, a person a human being something arbitrary? — Alkis Piskas
What affirmation would I gain from being informed “how simple YOU is”?
— Mww
A lot! More than you can think of! (Hint: It has to do with realization, not concepts) — Alkis Piskas
That's the million dollar question for me. I can't answer you that, cause I have no idea how it is done. — dimosthenis9
After all, do physical things exist in the absence of minds? — praxis
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