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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
— Stephen Roberts?
In other words: Hitchens' Razor. — 180 Proof
From Salman Rushdie:
If you were an atheist, Birbal," the Emperor challenged his first minister, "what would you say to the true believers of all the great religions of the world?" Birbal was a devout Brahmin from Trivikrampur, but he answered unhesitatingly, "I would say to them that in my opinion they were all atheists as well; I merely believe in one god less than each of them." "How so?" the Emperor asked. "All true believers have good reasons for disbelieving in every god except their own," said Birbal. "And so it is they who, between them, give me all the reasons for believing in none.
The Enchantress of Florence — Fooloso4
I've always found it interesting that, even if the traditional "proofs" of the existence of God had any validity, they don't serve to prove the existence of a personal, peculiarly Christian God, although they're regularly touted by Christians and have been for centuries. The same would apply in the case of other personal Gods if the "proofs" are used to "prove" them. Even if they're true, there's still a long way to go to get from them to Jesus or any other personal deity. — Ciceronianus the White
In real life, it's the moral and political views that matter. I find it intensely uncomfortable that some of the most obnoxious and ignorant attitudes tend to go along with religious belief. Sorry, there's no philosophy here. I just wanted to say that. — bert1
__________________In his book Five Proofs of the Existence of God, Catholic philosopher Edward Feser provides several long-winded metaphysical demonstrations of the existence of God:
the "Aristotelian proof" is 50 points long,
the "Neo-Platonic proof" is 38 points long,
the "Augustinian proof" is 29 points long.
the "Thomistic proof" is 36 points long.
the "Rationalist proof" is 27 points long. — darthbarracuda
Here I'm looking at atheism as the belief that god does not exist. That's how it is generally defined, and places it in direct opposition to theism, the belief that god exists, and is contrary to the agnostic view that there is no good reason to think that god doesn't exist. — Banno
they don't know anything about the existence or the non-existence of god. — skyblack
the agnostic view that there is no good reason to think that god doesn't exist. — Banno
Isn't what Banno said included in what you said? Although yes it's missing an essential part "and no good reason to think god exists" — khaled
The basic argument is that if these were successful, there would be far more theist philosophers. — Banno
Amongst professional philosophers and there associates theism is overwhelmingly rejected. In forums such as this, there are a small number of theists who are quite prolific. This might give an impression that theism, or other beliefs in God are prominent amongst amateurs, but it's more likely that those who don't believe in god just ignore the threads. Perhaps giving the discussion it's own place will entice a few from them. — Banno
There is quite a lot of evidence on the existence/non-existence of God. And it is known as evidence. "They don't know anything" is thus a misstatement. — tim wood
It seems to me this contains the key. Theists believe and bend their thoughts - such as they are - and their worlds to their beliefs. Atheists think and try to arrive at reasoned and reasonable conclusions based on facts, evidence, logic, etc., but not mere beliefs.that might typify the thinking of an atheist — Banno
. But here we go again, with the title in praise of atheism, and I notice that a couple of others have remarked on your title too.So perhaps we really need to build a temple, and compose some hymns for the thread. — Jack Cummins
beliefs in God are prominent amongst amateurs — Banno
Thales is recognized for breaking from the use of mythology to explain the world and the universe, and instead explaining natural objects and phenomena by naturalistic theories and hypotheses, in a precursor to modern science. — Wikipedia
Crucifixion in the Philippines is a devotional practice held every Good Friday, and is part of the local observance of Holy Week. Devotees or penitents called magdarame in Kapampangan are willingly crucified in imitation of Jesus Christ's suffering and death, while related practices include carrying wooden crosses, crawling on rough pavement, and self-flagellation. Penitents consider these acts to be mortification of the flesh, and undertake these to ask forgiveness for sins, to fulfil a panatà (Filipino, "vow"), or to express gratitude for favours granted. In the most famous case, Ruben Enaje drives four-inch nails into both hands and feet and then he is lifted on a wooden cross for around five minutes. — Wikipedia
contradiction — TheMadFool
I'm not sure about all I said above. — TheMadFool
In other words: Hitchens' Razor.I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. — Stephen Roberts?
Look to the future for higher human/alien beings, for that's where greater complexity lies. Look not to the past of the simpler and simpler—that is the wrong direction—the wrongest even. — PoeticUniverse
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours — Stephen Roberts?
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