Hermeneutic: (from Hermes, messenger and soul guide of the Greek Gods): wisdom in interpretation. Hermeneutic theory is "a member of the social subjectivist paradigm where meaning is inter-subjectively created, in contrast to the empirical universe of assumed scientific realism (Berthon et al. 2002). Other approaches within this paradigm are social phenomenology and ethnography. As part of the interpretative research family, hermeneutics focuses on the significance that an aspect of reality takes on for the people under study" (University of Colorado).
it's also pretty certain that Lucius Flavius Silva led a legion to Masada, given the remains of temporary castra and an encircling wall around that place, not to mention the remains of the giant ramp that eventually provided access by elements of the legion. — Ciceronianus the White
I thought scientific proofs turn hypotheses into theories. And do tautologies offer anything meaningful?science does not attempt to 'prove' a hypothesis about the material world. There are mathematical proofs, in the form of tautologies, but in scientific research, a hypothesis can only be corroborated, never proven. — ernestm
in various Facebook boards, almost all of the 100 replies I got within 3 days were criticisms, were certain, in NO UNCERTAIN terms, that all four gospels are entirely made up, from beginning to end. — ernestm
oh ok. There is almost nothing on the subject by comparison in terms of documentation. What we have are rather good archaeological ruins whence events were reconstructed. Unfortunately Jesus was a carpenter and didnt make piles of earth a thousand feet long. — ernestm
Assuming those Mark quotes in his Gospel were accurate, he was a carpenter with four brothers. I don't know about you, but I was brought up in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, and we never heard about those brothers. I suspect that was because either the Church didn't think such things were important if they were true, or the Church was hesitant to tell its members that God the Son (who was also God the Father and God the Holy Spirit, depending on what person was involved at the time) had brothers. — Ciceronianus the White
Well of course Ive thought about it. But also he never claimed he was THE son of God, he said he was THE SONE OF MAN, He said he prayed to his Father, and the funny thing is, the word he uses in that context means 'daddy.' Fundamentalists use this to say we should have a close personal relationship. Personally I think he missed his blood father alot, and alot of the things he said were distorted. Thats what I think, I cant prove it, I respect other opinions, and its one of those things about him we can never 'know' per se and it remains a matter of faith. Its taken me a long time to talk about it, Im not sure I talk about it as well as I should, but what really annoys me, actually REALLY annoys me, is how I usually cant talk about it at all without getting into hugely emotional arguments on one side or the other. So Im glad at least we can have a neutral conversation here!According to John's Gospel Jesus said with some clarity that he was God. — Ciceronianus the White
But I do remember once seeing a controversial painting of Jesus with his four brothers, with a splinter in his finger. I cant find it. Do you know who painted it? — ernestm
Well, he comes as close as can be to claiming godhood.But also he never claimed he was THE son of God, he said he was THE SONE OF MAN, — ernestm
“(jesus) began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands? Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.” Mark 6:2-3
Now when (the wise men) were departed... (Joseph) arose and took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt; and was there until the death of Herod (Matthew 2:13-15
Every year Jesus’ parents went to Jerusalem for the Festival of the Passover. When he was twelve years old, they went up to the festival, according to the custom. After the festival was over, while his parents were returning home, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem, but they were unaware of it. Thinking he was in their company, they traveled on for a day. Then they began looking for him among their relatives and friends. When they did not find him, they went back to Jerusalem to look for him. After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers. When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.” “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?[” But they did not understand what he was saying to them.
Your assumption is right, he exist, but not to that extent, which been largely exaggerated. Maybe for different reason Political or power shift from here and there. But who knows, what happens then. Like some wise person once says we dint have proof he exist, but as well we don prove that he didn't exist. — B G Upadh
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