‘there is nothing we can do’ is just trash.
Important to note that individualistic actions (as has been promoted for the last twenty years by neoliberal agendas) that places the onus solely on the individual (like turning off the lights!) is not only ineffective but false, and hides the true evils responsible at the centre of our economic and cultural systems, not just ~capitalism~ as it contemporarily it is, but the Judeo-Christian concepts of environmental domination, extractivism, and accumulation of resources beyond that merely needed for sustenance...culminating in modern day consumerism — Grre
Whatever we do, the climate will change, sometimes dramatically, as it has in the past. — Tzeentch
Yet, as per Banno's tragedy of the commons thread, a consensus on the net effects of climate change on the wealth of nations will never be ascertained: — Wallows
The climate and temperature are complicated systems; much more complicated than most people realize. The idea that CO2 is the primary factor in either of them is questionable. I would be surprised to find a scientist make such a claim, and there are certainly scientists who would dispute such claims (and I'd be happy to link them). — Tzeentch
Humanity has coped with a changing climate since its inception. Nothing we do can stop the climate from changing, since it's a natural phenomenon. Whether we like it or not, there will be ice ages, warm-ups, droughts etc. in the future. If that reality hasn't sunk in, we best get used to it sooner rather than later. — Tzeentch
I believe that your point was that climate catastrophism was unwarranted [...] — StreetlightX
The species are fucking dying off, that's what it has to do with climate change. Most species evolved to fit a specific environmental niche. When the niche disappears, the species often goes with it. Environmental change like early or late arrival of blossoming dates or migratory bird arrivals can be curtains. in North America and Europe bird and insect populations are falling. This is really, really bad news. — Bitter Crank
Here's the good news...it appears squids will do quite well from climate change ! If nothing else will... — Grre
Who chose her? She's self-appointed and exhibited by the media. — Shamshir
Then it would be subjective.Cheers; and as per that thread, the answer is not political, nor economic, neither can provide a solution. The issue is ethical. — Banno
The problem is that we don't know how much is the result of human activity, and we only have records (that aren't exact) that go back to when the recent ice age cycle started (that we are still in). — Harry Hindu
I'm trying to look for it but I saw something where before the Industrial Revolution the trend was cooling, but the current rise could offset the next cooling. There are several factors that could lead to a new ice age that could offset the current warming though. Solar activity and slight deviations in Earth's orbit are something that we can't predict to far into the future that can have a larger impact than what human's are doing.Yes, I've heard this somewhere before, that we are actually just entering a new cooldown period of the climate. Can you provide some links to this or is this just my imagination playing tricks on me? — Wallows
It will just lead to the end of any habitable world. — StreetlightX
None. — frank
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