You mean if no evidence or argument for the truth of the belief is given? — Janus
a general problem with religious claims — Janus
To avoid dishonesty, both theists and atheists would have to admit "I don't know for sure," which is agnostic, or else lose credibility. — PoeticUniverse
That's not true for the pointed out reason.To avoid dishonesty, both theists and atheists would have to admit "I don't know for sure," which is agnostic, or else lose credibility. — PoeticUniverse
Tribalism is this catch-all that we are served at the present. As if our society would truly be so rigid and not as permissive as it really is. Naturally it doesn't have to be like this. Where did we lose our individuality or is individuality only allowed when we think about our hedonistic and narcissistic me-myself-and-I lifestyles?Simply put, it's tribalism.
A member of a different tribe gets integrated fully if and only if s/he not only accepts the societal and personal institutions and morals, but also accepts the religion of the tribe adopting him or her. — god must be atheist
You can tell yourself this as much as you want, but it won't make it more real.This is a primal and indelible instinct in humans.
I am an atheist, and as such, try to destroy religionism and recruit more members to my ideology.
The religious do the same thing. Recruit members for their ideology, and destroy other ideologies.
This is so much human nature. Nobody can override this. Not the MODs, nobody. This is the bread and butter of humanity. — god must be atheist
I think that religious beliefs are a combo of absurd, ignorant, and incoherent.
And I think that racist beliefs are a combo of absurd, ignorant and incoherent.
Would you have a problem with someone being treated with disrespect, treated in a condescending way, etc. if they were to post in support of racist views on a philosophy board? — Terrapin Station
If you are speaking about the US, which is what matters most to me, I don't think that's true. What intrusions did you have in mind? — T Clark
the authority of law stands over that of religion.
— Fooloso4
That's true in the US, but not everywhere. — T Clark
The US, in particular — T Clark
It's a choice people have to make. — T Clark
Does a belief system that (for arguments sake) insist that every individual life is inherently valuable, deserve recognition over a belief system which says that some types of persons ought to be eliminated or imprisoned for the greater good? — Wayfarer
A few years back, there was discussion about Jurgen Habermas, one of the most highly esteemed social philosophers on the Continent. — Wayfarer
And if any belief is presented as being certainly true in any absolute sense that is intellectually dishonesty. — Janus
While you're likely right, I don't think religion holds the weight that you think it does, regarding the matter.but it comes down to the religious beliefs of a powerful few who determine what is permissible. — Fooloso4
Yeah, religion has a huge influence on laws . . . and there's no way around that, because we're surrounded with religious folks and they're voting (and lobbying and so on) — Terrapin Station
As these beliefs are based on morals that may be upheld by anyone, religious and non-religious alike. — Shamshir
While you're likely right, I don't think religion holds the weight that you think it does, regarding the matter. — Shamshir
As these beliefs are based on morals that may be upheld by anyone, religious and non-religious alike.
Favouring the fetus' right to live over the mother's complacency isn't necessarily religious. — Shamshir
I live in a society that is not desperately religious, I don't feel very strongly about all this 'God' stuff - the concept seems pretty unlikely, but all things are possible - and I don't think it is useful to define oneself as 'anti-' anything. — iolo
Maybe it's because Christian morality is just right?That's true, but if why is it that laws are so in line with Christian morality in the U.S.--and are such a struggle to change from that? I don't think it's just a coincidence. — Terrapin Station
Okay, maybe they are.It is not religion but the religious right. They are enormously influential in matters of reproductive rights, education, limited government, and geo-politics. — Fooloso4
The movement could be non-religious, and accomplish the same results - because it's powerful and well organized.That is true, but one's own views on the morality of abortion and a powerful, well-organized religious movement capable of influencing state and national law are two very different things. One need not be religious to be opposed to or non-religious to be in favor of reproductive rights. — Fooloso4
Maybe it's because Christian morality is just right? — Shamshir
Either way, that has more to do with politics than religion, so again it's the same as how the papacy's power crutch has nothing to do with religion. — Shamshir
Point out the examples that are wrong.It isn't. And a few examples here and there which I might agree with won't be enough to make it just right, so don't bother going down that road. — S
Read the fine print, kiddo.Don't be absurd, of course it has something to with religion. Even that's an understatement. Papal primary is an ecclesiastical doctrine. — S
Point out the examples that are wrong. — Shamshir
Read the fine print, kiddo.
It has more to do with politics.
You're mouthing off gibberish before the statement's even sunk in. — Shamshir
You've got nothing to show, and your statement is invalidated.No — S
Blah, blah, blah.I wasn't addressing that part, genius. I was addressing your false and absurd claim that the papacy's power crutch has nothing to do with religion. You're also wrong to say that the Crusades and the Inquisition weren't religious or Christian. They obviously were. You're the one talking gibberish. — S
They weren't Christian since Christianity doesn't solicit war - it calls to love your enemies. — Shamshir
They weren't Christian since Christianity doesn't solicit war - it calls to love your enemies. — Shamshir
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