I think about what Empiricus thought... — Mww
I don’t have to know what everybody knows to know there is at least one thing nobody knows. — Mww
Show me the black swan.
— creativesoul
Assuming you’re not joking, it’s not my burden to show you a black swan, but it wouldn’t be difficult to show you that which falsifies the notion of universal moral belief. You would have to prove a universal moral belief is possible without considering a particular example of what one would be, in order to circumvent the induction principle. — Mww
The intrinsic circularity of pure reason has been known for centuries. It is inescapable when reductionism is taken too far, which leads inevitably to illusions and manufactured contradictions. But it’s your theory; you’re more than welcome to expound it until the common understandings finally see the light. — Mww
My position refutes the very notion of 'pure reason'. — creativesoul
I think I'm done here. — creativesoul
I'd like to see the reasoning to support that. — Janus
I'd say there is pure reason, but it consists only in tautologies and 'contentless' formal logic... — Janus
Just want to note that there is most certainly a conception called "Pure Reason". Much if not most of Western Philosophy holds to it. — creativesoul
Please don't. Haven't we seen enough? — S
I am tired of being combative, S; I want to adopt a different approach, give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and if I find valid arguments and no inconsistencies, then I will accept anyone's philosophy, as an expression of their own unique individuality, even if I disagree with its presuppositions, .. — Janus
But if it is based on valid reasoned arguments and is not inconsistent then it's only nonsense and garbage according to someone's judgement, according to your own lights. — Janus
Why is there any need to combat those you might, rightly or wrongly, think of as crackpots, or those you just disagree with, when no one is forced to read anything anyone else writes? — Janus
I do kind of like his formulation of truths as being the beliefs that the community of inquirers will come to hold at the very end of inquiry, but I think he also held that absolute or objective truth is unknowable. I said "kind of like" because that formulation seems to be more idealistic than realistic; as if we could ever know that the end of inquiry had been reached, or as if the very last beliefs that humanity held in common the 'moment' before their extinction could count as final truths in anything more than a temporal sense. — Janus
I do kind of like his formulation of truths as being the beliefs that the community of inquirers will come to hold at the very end of inquiry, — Janus
he also held that absolute or objective truth is unknowable. — Janus
Why do you think that you're so attracted to going with the crowd? That's a disposition I run into frequently--it seems to be the whole nut of getting on board with both objectivism and "intersubjectivism" on anything--a disposition to consider something right because it's common, but I don't really understand what the attraction is. I'm always instead reminded of the "if everyone were jumping off of a bridge" thing. — Terrapin Station
Just want to note that there is most certainly a conception called "Pure Reason". Much if not most of Western Philosophy holds to it. — creativesoul
My position refutes the very notion of 'pure reason'. — creativesoul
I've shown how the framework you're using is inherently flawed. — creativesoul
It's getting way too ridiculous — creativesoul
I think this is a reference to Pierce above. If you have any idea what it means, could you share that? I'm thinking it's meaningless, or that the speaker wasn't really thinking about what truth is when he spoke, or wrote. Or if you like, you can answer for him.that absolute or objective truth is unknowable. — Janus
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