The response is only thought insofar as we're talking about things like "this is pleasurable"/"this is more than pleasurable" etc.
I suppose you're otherwise referring to non-mental physiological responses they might have, or actions they make take--like if it's a painting and they walk to view it at a different angle, etc — Terrapin Station
Well for me a simple continuum of pleasure doesn't get it right. — macrosoft
"Clever, skillful and pleasant" are all mental judgments we make. "This is not just clever" and so on would also be mental judgments we make, and they're nothing more than that. — Terrapin Station
'They're nothing more than that' is also nothing more than that, — macrosoft
Actually, it is more than that, because it's a non-mental fact that "This is pleasant" is just a mental phenomenon. — Terrapin Station
No, I said it's a non-mental fact. That's different than saying it's true. Facts and truths are not the same thing. — Terrapin Station
A fact exists for us, it seems, as a state of mind. — macrosoft
"Exists for us" you mean re how you know about it? If so, sure, but it's important not to conflate epistemology and ontology. Facts do not need us to exist in order to be facts. — Terrapin Station
I would define art as anything made to look attractive to its viewer and to command a lot of money in trade. — hks
It's conceivable that some varieties of 'personal' transcendence are less shared than others, and that art based on this might be less popular and yet no less effective for the smaller group sensitive to it. — macrosoft
Well said, so maybe the best approach is to think in terms of shared potential for subjective (feeling-based) transcendence. — macrosoft
both of these things can be infinitely reduced to the point of practical relativity, — Guy Osborn
What do you think the goal of a work [of art] is? — Cavacava
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