If this explains the gender pay gap then why is it that men bring more "value" than women?
Regardless, it's a gender pay gap all the same. — Michael
I don't think the pay gap stats really deal with the issues. There is a gap, but I do not think most of it is because women are women or men are men, necessarily.
Averages can hide the truth.
If job A pays progressively due to increasing experience, then people who stay in the job longest will end up with more pay. In such a case men might be more likely to achieve higher wages over the long term, but it would have nothing to do with then BEING men.
In such work environments women taking time off for pregnancy and child rearing would automatically be playing catch up for the rest of their career. This is about personal circumstances not sexism.
If job B requires strength and mechanical skill and pays higher than other jobs that do not, this also may lead to increasing the pay gap as, in general, women are less likely to do well in such jobs being on average of lower strength. Additionally women, for whatever reason, tend to have less mechanical skill - this might be a cultural thing, rather than a natural thing. But it would not be the fault of the employer necessarily - thought they might apply the same cultural bias and not consider a women.
However - in really high paid jobs there is a clear and obvious pay gap, such as we find in the BBC, and there is an obvious male club in the stock market, and the board room which skew the averages. — charleton
The main takeaway (from the analysis discussed above) is that what is going on within occupations—even when there are 469 of them as in the case of the Census and ACS—is far more important to the gender gap in earnings than is the distribution of men and women by occupations. That is an extremely useful clue to what must be in the last chapter. If earnings gaps within occupations are more important than the distribution of individuals by occupations then looking at specific occupations should provide further evidence on how to equalize earnings by gender. Furthermore, it means that changing the gender mix of occupations will not do the trick.
What, then, is the cause of the remaining pay gap? Quite simply the gap exists
because hours of work in many occupations are worth more when given at particular
moments and when the hours are more continuous. That is, in many occupations earnings have a nonlinear relationship with respect to hours. A flexible schedule often comes at a high price, particularly in the corporate, financial, and legal worlds
If job A pays progressively due to increasing experience, then people who stay in the job longest will end up with more pay. In such a case men might be more likely to achieve higher wages over the long term, but it would have nothing to do with then BEING men.
In such work environments women taking time off for pregnancy and child rearing would automatically be playing catch up for the rest of their career. This is about personal circumstances not sexism. — charleton
It assumes experience is a good indicator for performance, which it isn't and that managing a household does not instil a person with (management) skills they can apply to a job — Benkei
Generally, most hiring policies and systems have an ingrained bias against women as the measurements applied favour men. For example, the sociable female lawyer that takes the time out to educate juniors and paralegals has less billable hours than the... — Benkei
That is a matter for the employer and the market. The assumption does not have to have a bearing; the performance which is usually better due to experience deserves more pay, as it attracts more competitive pay. Employers have a great interest in keeping more experienced staff in that they tend to improve the performance of others around them. — charleton
Are you in the US or UK? Traditional professions tend to keep ossified ideas OR Maybe you are just not that good a lawyer? — charleton
Another important result is that the impact of a birth on labor supply grows over time in an individual, fixed-effects estimation. A year after a first birth, women’s hours, conditional on working, are reduced by 17 percent and their participation by 13 percentage points. But three to four years later, hours decline by 24 percent and participation by 18 percentage points. Some MBA moms try to stay in the fast lane but ultimately find it is unworkable. The increased impact years after the first birth, moreover, is not due to the effect of additional births.
Part-time work in the corporate sector is uncommon and part-timers are often self-employed (more than half are at 10 to 16 years out). Differences in career interruptions and hours worked by sex are not large, but the corporate and financial sectors impose heavy penalties on deviation from the norm. Some female MBAs with children, especially those with high earning husbands, find the trade-offs too steep and leave or engage in self-employment.
Impossible. Peterson has a good understanding of everything after Nietzsche, and there are some important philosophical traditions there - existentialism, phenomenology, pragmatism, postmodernism.Shapiro is better read in philosophy than Peterson — Thorongil
That's likely here.especially political philosophy. — Thorongil
Regardless of whether people think the remaining pay gap is entirely attributable to discrimination, or they do something stupid like say the entire thing is attributable to discrimination, I think it's very likely that promoting joint, paid, parental leave and paid paternity leave would reduce the worst excesses of this effect. At the very least it would remove some cases where people's careers will be stymied for the sin of wanting to start and take care of a family. — fdrake
The answer is yes. You just write on a piece of cardboard "Lawyer", stick it on your door, invite people in, and start charging them! I once spoke to a Macedonian lawyer and he told me the right motto in business is "work less, charge more!" >:OYou mean in Holland you get work as a lawyer regardless of your ability? — charleton
At the very least it would remove some cases where people's careers will be stymied for the sin of wanting to start and take care of a family. — fdrake
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