• NOS4A2
    10.2k
    French cybercrime units have raided the offices of X in relation to Grok's Holocaust denial and explicit deepfakes. Grok is artificial intelligence. Musk himself has been summoned by prosecutors.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/world/europe/france-paris-prosecutors-x-office-elon-musk-sexual-deepfakes-holocaust-rcna257202

    These and other incidences of European harassment have been a growing concern, as the supposed allies who have been benefitting from American military protection for decades, have been threatening US companies with their censorship regime for many years now.
  • Questioner
    494
    their censorship regimeNOS4A2

    They are the good guys.

    Yeah, Elon Musk called the raid on Twitter (X) offices a ‘political attack.’

    France’s official response -

    “Investigating child sexual abuse material isn’t controversial. Turning it into political theater is manipulation. Maybe that logic flies on some island. Doesn’t fly in France."

    French authorities — and their European counterparts — have been watching Elon Musk for a long time. Officially, French Law enforcement is responding to whistleblower complaints of the “sexual abuse of minors” and funding from foreign entities to destabilize the French government by working with local far-right Russian-funded groups (proven in a court of law) with Russian-backed leaders of France’s far right.

    Musk has used X to:

    • Boost extremist narratives in Europe
    • Undermine trust in democratic institutions
    • Attack elected leaders who challenge him
    • Interfere in public discourse during elections
    • Promote AI-generated propaganda with minimal safeguards
  • NOS4A2
    10.2k


    They are the good guys.

    You’re linking me to substack articles from a Canadian anti-Trump propagandist. Are you the author?

    The story from Axios and NBC is far different:

    https://www.axios.com/2026/02/03/musk-grok-deepfakes-paris-prosecutors-x-search
  • Questioner
    494
    You’re linking me to substack articlesNOS4A2

    What part of it do you believe to be not true?

    And why would you defend spreading pornographic images of minors?

    Anyway, here's another corroborating article

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/french-police-raid-x-grok-elon-musk-9.7072861
  • NOS4A2
    10.2k


    I don’t know, I’m not going to read it. Your guy is a failed disc jockey.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Blundell

    I haven’t defended anything. In fact I criticized French authorities.
  • Questioner
    494
    I haven’t defended anything. In fact I criticized French authorities.NOS4A2

    You called their move on targeting the pornography as censorship

    I don’t know, I’m not going to read it.NOS4A2

    Why? Because it might tell you something you don't want to hear?
  • NOS4A2
    10.2k


    You called their move on targeting the pornography as censorship

    These are images generated by users, not the company. It’s weird that they wouldn’t want to go after the guilty people, but aim it towards Musk.


    Why would you want them to go after the innocent and not the guilty?
  • Metaphysician Undercover
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    Russia, ... really? :lol:Tzeentch

    Follow the money. Take a look at Epstein's funding.
  • Questioner
    494
    hese are images generated by users, not the company.NOS4A2

    You can't be that naive.

    Grok (the generative-AI developed by Musk's company xAI) has become a porn generator.

    Employees at xAI have to sign a waiver stating that -

    ...their jobs would require being exposed to “sensitive, violent, sexual and/or other offensive or disturbing content,” the waiver said, emphasizing that such content “may be disturbing, traumatizing, and/or cause you psychological stress.”

    ... In meeting after meeting (Musk) has championed a new metric, “user active seconds,” to granularly measure how long people spent conversing with the chatbot, according to two of the people.

    ... As part of this push for relevance, xAI embraced making sexualized material, publicly releasing sexy AI companions, rolling back guardrails on sexual material and ignoring internal warnings about the potentially serious legal and ethical risks of producing such content, according to interviews with more than a half-dozen former employees of X and xAI
  • Tzeentch
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    What, you mean all the American billionaires and banks?

    Blaming Russia is some peak cope.
  • Metaphysician Undercover
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    What, you mean all the American billionaires and banks?Tzeentch

    American billionaires, and their banks are not a "state". Furthermore, you need to distinguish between the targets of the extortion and blackmailing, and the beneficiaries of the extortion and blackmailing.

    You proposed that Epstein and his wife managed a "decades-spanning", "state-run enterprise" of "extortion and blackmailing".

    If this is the case, then some state must have provided them with the funding, to operate, and in return that state would receive benefit from the extortion and blackmailing.

    Have you seriously looked into which state was providing this funding, and benefitting from the operation?
  • Questioner
    494
    I read an interesting headline today.

    The World is Investigating Epstein's Network. America is Protecting It
  • Tzeentch
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    Already retracting that Russian turd?

    Like I said, the ties with the CIA, MI6 and Mossad are clear. Evidently you haven't seriously looked into any of this yourself or you would have known that their greasy fingerprints are all over this case, and you wouldn't have come with the ridiculous suggestion that "it was the Russians".

    Judging by your comment I'm guessing you believe that clown in the White House runs the show? Never wondered who runs that circus and whether such parties may benefit from holding compromising material over the people you get to vote for?
  • Tzeentch
    4.4k
    Gee, I wonder why that might be.
  • Punshhh
    3.6k
    It is beginning to look as though it became a Russian operation. This also ties in with election interference in the 2016 elections in the U.S. and Brexit in the U.K. followed by a blackmail operationto control all the clients drawn in by Epstein. Including kompromat on Trump.

    There seem to be a lot of Russian escort women moving around the place including one being trafficked into the U.K. for the use of Prince Andrew. Which the police are looking into.

    Possible Russian involvement here;

    https://dossier.center/jeffreyepsteinrusconnect-en/
  • ssu
    9.8k
    If this is the case, then some state must have provided them with the funding, to operate, and in return that state would receive benefit from the extortion and blackmailing.

    Have you seriously looked into which state was providing this funding, and benefitting from the operation?
    Metaphysician Undercover
    I think the Epstein pedo sex-ring was more subtle than blackmail. When you have the Mossad ties, the basic issue is that people are basically pro-Israel. And that's it. As that's the most natural thing for any politician or billionaire to be in the US, pro-Israel that is, this stance isn't at all dubious or threatening. It would be totally different if Epstein would have been working for let's say the Chinese. Hence sexual predators like Bill Clinton or Donald Trump (or "former" Prince Andrew) just would love to be in such "safe" pedophile ring.

    Now Epstein seems to have wanted to have connections to Russia, but these were more like attempts to have business connections etc.

    Of course the horribly sad state where Trump has put the Department of Justice and the FBI has made the US system a real banana republic court totally dependent on the whims of the local dictator. It is just laughable.

    Now it seems that the Trump-lovers are eager trying to say that all Western countries are as corrupt as the US is now.

    There seem to be a lot of Russian escort women moving around the place including one being trafficked into the U.K. for the use of Prince Andrew. Which the police are looking into.Punshhh
    There's actually tons of this kind of stuff as many countries and their hosts have taken care of the needs of one British prince.

    It is beginning to look as though it became a Russian operation.Punshhh
    Lol. The whole Trump administration is looking like a Russian operation.
  • jorndoe
    4.2k
    Now it seems that the Trump-lovers are eager trying to say that all Western countries are as corrupt as the US is now.ssu

    ..., and House Trump babbles about a dire invasion by immigrants in Europe, and meanwhile the Kremlin claims that the better part of Europe is Nazi, ... :D (It's almost like they're cooperating/competing in airing incompatible propaganda.)

    Not long ago, Trump inadvertently admitted listening to Putin before both US and French investigations. This was about the alleged bombing of a large residence of Putin's. (Irrelevant either way.) Trump is a Russotoady (or worse).
  • AmadeusD
    4.2k
    Oh my fucking God, you guys are parrotting the Russian nonsense now?

    It's going to be exquisite coming back in another two years.
  • Paine
    3.2k

    I don't know what the real story is but am curious why it is patently implausible from what you have learned.
  • Mikie
    7.3k


    This is the same guy parroting the claim that “millions of illegals vote democrat.” I’d take the trolling comments with a grain of salt. All fluff and posturing.

    But regarding what you said: you don’t believe that Russian involvement had any real impact on the election in ‘16, do you?
  • Tzeentch
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    The simple reason is that for every possible connection pointing to Russia, there's about a hundred that point to the USA, UK and Israel.

    People who are jumping on the Russia story are desperately clutching at straws not to have to come to terms with the truth about the system they are living under. It's a coping mechanism.
  • Punshhh
    3.6k
    Why would Epstein be trafficking Russian escorts to royal palaces in the U.K. if it was a U.S. state operation?
  • Tzeentch
    4.4k
    Because some men are into Eastern European girls? There were girls from all over the world being trafficked there. Considering the scale of the whole operation, how is that in any way surprising?
  • Punshhh
    3.6k
    But the prospect of getting something on a member of the Royal family would be gold dust for the Russian intelligence. Why would the U.S. state be getting into bed (the same bed) with both Russia and the Royal family?
  • ssu
    9.8k
    Why would Epstein be trafficking Russian escorts to royal palaces in the U.K. if it was a U.S. state operation?Punshhh
    In general because of lower standard of living modelling (prostitution) in the West seems a lucrative career for many. Some of Epstein's American victims have said that they were told that they were rare.

    Do notice that Epstein wasn't government employee. Intelligence services usually have very dubious connections.
  • Tzeentch
    4.4k
    The US didn't "get into bed with Russia" - nothing in the Epstein files implicates the Russian state (if anything they imply the Kremlin deliberately kept its distance), while there's mountains of evidence implicating the US, UK and Israeli security services, including direct links to Epstein and Maxwell.
  • Punshhh
    3.6k
    Yes there would have been many Russian escort women looking to take advantage of the opportunity.
    There is talk of Epstein using Sergei Belyakov, then Deputy Minister of Economic Development in Russia to procure the women.

    Belyakov is a graduate of the FSB Academy which prepares Russian intelligence officers. As the Dossier Center discovered, he helped Epstein to deal with a Russian model who was blackmailing American businessmen, as well as proposing to arrange meetings with Deputy Finance Minister Sergei Storchak and Central Bank Deputy Chairman Alexei Simanovsky. For his part, Epstein advised Belyakov on saving the Russian economy amid imposed sanctions, while also recruiting high-profile guests for SPIEF.

    https://dossier.center/jeffreyepsteinrusconnect-en/

    Christopher Steele an ex MI6 operative stated yesterday on LBC radio;

    My sources in America tell me that the American government, the American intelligence services assessment was that Epstein was recruited as early as the 1970s by Russian organised crime figures in New York and that his information was being used, his operational techniques were being used from that point onwards.
    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/christopher-steele-epstein-trump-russia-5HjdRrM_2/
  • ssu
    9.8k
    As Trump was financially saved by his Russian connections and how close Trump and Epstein had been, it's no wonder that these guys were mingling with the Russians.
  • Punshhh
    3.6k
    We were talking about state involvement. It is well known that the Russian state will use blackmail and death threats to recruit agents in other countries. When these connections were made, Russia was a friend of the west (mid 90’s for the next decade), allowing Russian influence to spread in the West. Now that Russia is again the enemy, that influence is being exercised. The obvious example of this is Trump himself.
  • Tzeentch
    4.4k
    It is well known that the Russian state will use blackmail and death threats to recruit agents in other countries.Punshhh

    It is well known that the CIA, MI6 and Mossad do the same. Your point?

    When these connections were made, Russia was a friend of the westPunshhh

    And the US just so happened to be at the absolute peak of its power, while Russia was at its low point.

    But I'm sure they'd never abuse that power to gain leverage over high-profile people.

    The Americans are the good guys after all!
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