AmadeusD
Theists believe in God for many reasons but the best reason is communion with God. — EnPassant
Why anyone be unable to commune with God? — EnPassant
I am not talking about medical issues I'm talking about abuse of these substances. The damage they do is well documented. — EnPassant
EnPassant
What do you mean by 'best'? — AmadeusD
what is it - everyone can commune with God, or that God choose who to commune with arbitrarily? — AmadeusD
Psychedelics cause the least amount of damage along any axis of known, reported drug use metrics. — AmadeusD
AmadeusD
There are many levels of faith. Some have an intuitive sense of God, some have deeper faith and enter religious life, some become mystics and have a deeper relationship with God. By 'best' I mean the most instructive and exemplary - Julian of Norwich, Teresa of Avila, Kahlil Gibran... — EnPassant
Some - like Dawkins - seem very angry about God. — EnPassant
What kind of damage are they measuring? — EnPassant
These substances can open the mind to dangerous psychic realities. — EnPassant
EnPassant
Not at all, and explicitly so. I take it you've not read any of his work? He's clearly not an angry man beyond watching religious zealotry illogically cause damage, whether personal or social. — AmadeusD
Physical, psychological, social, economic. — AmadeusD
You're going to need to say a lot more about what you mean by "psychic realities" and how they could be "dangerous" for this to fly anywhere. — AmadeusD
AmadeusD
Religions are corrupt. Supernatural beliefs per se don't cause damage, it is the corruption and misuse of religion that causes damage. — EnPassant
Read about Syd Barret from Pink Floyd and the damage these substances did to his mind. — EnPassant
Get involved in philosophical discussions about knowledge, truth, language, consciousness, science, politics, religion, logic and mathematics, art, history, and lots more. No ads, no clutter, and very little agreement — just fascinating conversations.