• praxis
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    A Buddhist told me that all divisions are both illusory and real.
  • frank
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    TribalismTom Storm

    One of Heidegger's biographers accused him of sadism due to his easy attitude toward violence and even genocide. If someone is happy with the concept of humans being tortured eternally, maybe there's some sadism to it?
  • Tom Storm
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    One of Heidegger's biographers accused him of sadism due to his easy attitude toward violence and even genocide.frank

    Is that accurate? Is that Black Notebokk stuff?

    If someone is happy with the concept of humans being tortured eternally, maybe there's some sadism to it?frank

    Well if God is happy with this who are we not to share the enthusiasm?
  • frank
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    Is that accurate? Is that Black Notebokk stuff?Tom Storm

    No, that's Steiner in 1979. The black notebooks just put an end to any possibility of apology.

    Well if God is happy with this who are we not to share the enthusiasm?Tom Storm

    Well, it's just that most of us would be filled with horror at the thought of lighting a golden retriever on fire. We're better than God?
  • Tom Storm
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    No, that's Steiner in 1979. The black notebooks just put an end to any possibility of apology.frank

    Ah huh! Good line by the way.

    Well, it's just that most of us would be filled with horror at the thought of lighting a golden retriever on fire.frank

    These days it seems that some people are more uncomfortable with golden retrievers on fire than people.
  • frank
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    These days it seems that some people are more uncomfortable with golden retrievers on fire than people.Tom Storm

    misanthropy, yep
  • Hanover
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    Conservative Christians care about divisions.frank

    That's because conservatives adhere to orthodoxy by definition and don't accept variation, which does require them to either ignore or explain away their own modifications that occur over time.

    Orthodox Judaism modifies by becoming more strict, so not all change is towards leniency.

    The Amish control themselves by adhering to the rule that increasing one's humility is showing off and therefore not humble. Like if I tried to prove myself a super Amish man by having a goat pull me on a rolling chair instead of a fancy horse and buggy.

    That's the best example I could think of, but there might be others.
  • frank
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    But for the perfect Amish woman, would you go all out with goat and what not? This is a test for how conservative you are.
  • Corvus
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    Below is a video I made (less than 10 minutes) about why religions have failed to find the truth.
    In short, religions disagree about what happens when I die, how to be saved, etc. Religions have had thousands of years to find the truth and have failed. The video show why. Comments (here or on YouTube) appreciated.
    Art48

    We need to think about what religions try to achieve. If we agree that religions aim to achieve converting the ordinary folks in the streets into their cults and sectors giving false promise and illusion for afterlife and reincarnation, then they have been successful, because there are many believers in the teachings.

    If the would-be followers turn to sceptic on the religions doubting if the teachings are true, the religions still succeed, because then the sceptic will turn to a philosopher reading philosophy of religion not quite committing himself to the teachings, but still thinking about and going over the teachings.

    And sooner or later, the non-belivers and agnostics tend to turn to religions when they get older.

    Whether religions actually offer the real afterlife or reincarnation remains mystery, which belongs in the realm of faith.
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