NotAristotle
So the whole practice of referring becomes pointless. — Ludwig V
Metaphysician Undercover
No, that's not what contingent means. — Relativist
I perceive that the sun is shining. In my actual world the sun is shining.
I imagine a possible world in which the sun is not shining. It is possible that there is an actual world where the sun is not shining.
Actual worlds may exist or possibly exist. — RussellA
In standard modal logic there is exactly one actual world. — Banno
(ii) its designated “actual world” is in fact the actual world, — SEP
RussellA
Well, you/Kripke have your reasons for saying that, I suppose. But it is clear that whatever "water" means is not based on that information. — Ludwig V
Again, perhaps so. But it follows that, whoever is called Aristotle is not necessarily the philosopher that we know and love. — Ludwig V
RussellA
What meaning does "actual" have here? You could remove it from your example without changing the meaning of anything. — Metaphysician Undercover
Richard B
I do not think "air" is a rigid designator, and so I am happy to not designate any of the components, whether a majority component or not, as the necessary referent of the term "air." — NotAristotle
when it so refers it will be the case that necessarily water is H2O as a result of the identity between the stuff and what is referred to by the term in that context. — NotAristotle
Metaphysician Undercover
NotAristotle
just say "water" means "H2O" — Richard B
the term "water" when used in science refers to a collection of H2O molecules that under particular temperature and pressure conditions exhibit the macroscopic properties we typically call a "liquid." — Richard B
a collection of H2O molecules that under particular temperature and pressure conditions exhibit the macroscopic properties we typically call a "liquid." — Richard B
Relativist
The modality is equally relevant. Your modality is epistemic: given the facts available to you, it is (epistemically) possible the sun is shining.The words actual and possible are still needed.
In conversation, I might say “the sun might not be shining”, but would be confusing to a listener as it lacks context. It would be better to say “it is possible that the sun might not be shining”, as this does infer a context.
Similarly, my saying “the sun is shining” lacks context. It would be better to say “the sun is actually shining”.
The words "possible" and "actual" add context. — RussellA
RussellA
There is an implied difference between the perceived world and the imaginary worlds, but both those categories are actual, so "actual" serves no purpose. — Metaphysician Undercover
Metaphysician Undercover
This imagined possible world may in fact be an actual world. — RussellA
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