• synthesis
    116
    What is being? What is ceasing?
    — synthesis

    ceasing is when life is no longer “animate”

    being is nothing but you “are” on this plane of existence
    Ignance

    Isn't ceasing only relative to your exact Universal (coordinate) position? And doesn't that suggest that no thing can actually cease?

    Who is? And where is this plane?
  • Gus Lamarch
    596
    can we imagine a place without time?TiredThinker

    The simplest answer would be God. He simply Is.
  • Ignance
    23
    Isn't ceasing only relative to your exact Universal (coordinate) position? And doesn't that suggest that no thing can actually cease?synthesis

    what do you mean by this?

    Who is? And where is this plane?synthesis

    i don’t think any person truly “is” but the concept of God definitely qualifies for it, the plane is what we would define as reality through our human lens, no?
  • synthesis
    116
    Isn't ceasing only relative to your exact Universal (coordinate) position? And doesn't that suggest that no thing can actually cease?
    — synthesis

    what do you mean by this?

    Let's say you are ten feet away from somebody has has just died. Then let's say your friend who is on a spaceship heading through space but is watching you and this gentleman live (electronically) but is one light year away. For him, the man won't die for another year, right? So on and so forth, so your Universal position determines when something is going to happen or if it ever happens (if you keep moving away at near the speed of light).

    Who is? And where is this plane?
    — synthesis

    i don’t think any person truly “is” but the concept of God definitely qualifies for it, the plane is what we would define as reality through our human lens, no?
    Ignance

    It is if it is for you. Everybody has their own reality, no? And how would God play into this?
  • Present awareness
    8
    Time is the measurement of change. Like all measurements, one needs a zero point to measure from and that zero point is the present moment. Put marks on a circle and spin a wire which is relative to the speed of the rotation of the earth and one has a device to measure with, called a clock. The marks the wire just passed is called the past and the marks the wire is approaching is called the future. However, the only time one may look at the clock is in the present. Since the present moment neither arrives nor departs and it is the present moment everywhere in the universe, it gives context to the concept of past and future.
  • Metaphysician Undercover
    8.1k
    Like all measurements, one needs a zero point to measure from and that zero point is the present moment.Present awareness

    How can the present be a point, when time is always passing?
  • jgill
    988
    “The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.”

    Omar Khayyam (ca 1100AD) - As a mathematician he worked on continued fractions, a subject I studied fifty years ago. :cool:
  • Possibility
    1.8k
    I guess a more interesting question would be what multiple time dimensions would be like if it were possible. We often understand space as being multi-dimensional, but in most theories (even in string theory with it's dozen dimensions), there is only one time dimension.Mr Bee

    I find this to be a common misunderstanding of dimensions that consolidates ‘space’ within an aspect ‘time’. What we commonly refer to as ‘time’ presupposes the existence of what we commonly refer to as ‘space’. This presupposes the existence of direction (shape), which in turn presupposes the existence of (potential) energy.

    Now Einstein says time is an illusion but we still assume it has some basis is reality? In the movie, "Doctor Strange" he goes to a universe where time doesn't exist and creates a time loop. Now fiction aside, can we imagine a place without time? Would any events occur? Can memories form? Or do all possible events occur simultaneously? What is the lay of the land?TiredThinker

    I think Einstein was referring to the relativity of time in relation to knowledge. Memories can only form as such in an atemporal structure, where all possible events may be accessible at any time. Such a system would be structured according to a perception of value, significance or potential, rather than an observation of change.
  • Present awareness
    8
    If time is passing, what exactly is it passing?
  • Metaphysician Undercover
    8.1k
    If time is passing, what exactly is it passing?Present awareness

    It's a form of change, going by. We measure the going by of time, which is called passing. Since time is always passing (changing), a "zero point" cannot be determined, and it is simply assumed. An assumed point is lacking in truth. Therefore if a zero point is needed for measuring time, but the one employed is just assumed, the measurements are inaccurate.
  • Present awareness
    8
    I agree that we measure the going by of time, but that measurement always begins from NOW (the present moment). One could measure an hour from now or a year from now, but now is always the reference point. NOW, itself, does not change because it is always NOW. Since what we call time is continually passing that which we call NOW, now becomes the reference point to compare changes from within it. For example, you have never been older then whatever age you are now. It was NOW when you were a child and it is still now regardless of your current age. Your body has changed and your mind has changed but the fact that it is NOW, has not changed.
  • Mick Wright
    12
    Smolen, hmmm... Still haven't read his last book. But he is after all the only person so far that has solved for the problem of time. I can't understand why the whole loop quantum gravity isn't as mainstream as it should probably be... it is after all at least falsifiable...
  • elucid
    69
    That would result in many contradictions. If time did not exist, nothing could exist temporarily or forever. So everything, including nothingness cannot exist or not exist.
12Next
bold
italic
underline
strike
code
quote
ulist
image
url
mention
reveal
youtube
tweet
Add a Comment

Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!

Get involved in philosophical discussions about knowledge, truth, language, consciousness, science, politics, religion, logic and mathematics, art, history, and lots more. No ads, no clutter, and very little agreement — just fascinating conversations.