To the Quantum Depths of the Poetic Universe:

Lost in the Haystack? — PoeticUniverse

It seems clear that even if God existed, God doesn't intervene human affairs based on the history of the world and the current affairs on what's happening in the world. There is nothing one can do about that.

And from my observations, experiences and reasoning, the only place where God exist is the word God. Nowhere else in the external world I could observe God at all. Therefore my proof God exists in the keyboard of my computer still stands.

My points were,
1. There is no ultimate proof that demons don't exist. Could you prove demons and dragons don't exist? — Corvus

I'm trying! That is indeed one of the things that I have been working on for the past year and a half, more or less. To prove, logically, definitively, that demons, dragons and other fictional entities do not exist. But it's a really difficult thing to prove, because that discussion is about the concept of existence itself. Mario Bunge, my philosophical hero, says that fictional entities (such as Pegasus, demons, dragons, ghosts, God, angels, etc.) have "conceptual existence", while ordinary objects such as this table or this computer have "real existence". Unlike Bunge, I want to prove that fictional entities do not exist, not even conceptually.

2. Even if demons don't exist (lets presume that they don't exist), the fact that demons don't exist doesn't stop people imagining and thinking about them. People have been talking about demons and fire breathing dragons for thousands of years, and still will be doing so until the end of human civilization creating them in art form i.e. movies, novels, paintings and sculptures. — Corvus

Indeed. And I, as a metaphysician, should be able to talk about all of that, in a way that makes sense to the common person as well as the philosopher and the scientist.

3. The fact that people imagine, think and talk about demons implies that abstract existence has significant meanings in the human mind, which suggests that abstract objects can exist. Perhaps abstract objects exist in different forms, and should it be said that abstract objects axist? instead of exist (in physical objects?) :) — Corvus

Hmmm... this is where the discussion gets extremely complicated, because it has to do with the very concept of existence, it has to do with what the word "existence" means, and that is not an easy thing to understand. The easiest solution is to use a dictionary, for example an online dictionary, and look at the definition of the word "existence". But that's very basic. Philosophers have some very complicated things to say about existence, and they don't agree with each other on that point.

Of course my points are just assumptions and inferences from your claims. You can disagree, if they don't make sense. But it is interesting to see different opinions on these aspects of existence. — Corvus

They make perfect sense. The problem is that these problems (i.e., the problems about existence) are not easy to solve.

Philosophers have some very complicated things to say about existence, and they don't agree with each other on that point. — Arcane Sandwich

Yes, this is true. Existence is an interesting topic. We could further analyse and discuss on the nature of Existence. If you would open an OP, I would follow, read and try to contribute if I have any relating ideas cropping up in my head.

Yes, this is true. Existence is an interesting topic. We could further analyse and discuss on the nature of Existence. If you would open an OP, I would follow, read and try to contribute if I have any relating ideas cropping up in my head. — Corvus

Thanks, but I already have 3 Threads that I started, and I don't want to monopolize the main page with my presence. Perhaps if you began the Thread about Existence yourself, I could contribute to it, to the best of my ability.

You both share informative, pleasing, and detailed posts. I wouldn't see myself taking part in a thread started by one of you because a philosophical content such as 'existence' holds a lot of complexity in it. Yet I always tend to read your debate, although I don't post a reply ever.

But, as a reminder folks -- God's existence depends more on the encouragement of the believers to believe rather than the existence itself.

Thank you very much @javi2541997.

And from my observations, experiences and reasoning, the only place where God exist is the word God. Nowhere else in the external world I could observe God at all. Therefore my proof God exists in the keyboard of my computer still stands. — Corvus

Yes, all we have is a Ground Of Determination - the Quantum 'vacuum'.

That is indeed one of the things that I have been working on for the past year and a half, more or less. To prove, logically, definitively, that demons, dragons and other fictional entities do not exist. But it's a really difficult thing to prove, because that discussion is about the concept of existence itself. — Arcane Sandwich

There are no mythological creatures yet.

There is only the Permanent Existence; its rearrangements into temporaries are still It.

There is only the Permanent Existence; its rearrangements into temporaries are still It. — PoeticUniverse

Hmmm...

Hmmm... — Arcane Sandwich

Yes, but not Himmm.

Gracias por tus amables palabras, amigo.

Yes, all we have is a Ground Of Determination - the Quantum 'vacuum'. — PoeticUniverse

I don't have it, sir. Where can I find one?

I don't have it, sir. Where can I find one? — Corvus

Amazon has 'Quantum X Upright Water Filter Vacuum'.

Amazon has 'Quantum X Upright Water Filter Vacuum'. — PoeticUniverse

How does it relate to the entity that you claimed that we have i.e. "a Ground of Determination"?