• 3017amen
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    Time then is very much like a private, personal, experience having no existence beyond.TheMadFool

    TMF!

    The illusion/paradox of time is real for sure (twins, time zones, relativity, etc.), but also the perception of time is just as intriguing. Like the simple feeling that time seem to fly by when one is either busy or as one ages. And how it seems slow when one is bored or anxious.

    Time perception raises a number of intriguing puzzles, including what it means to say we perceive time. We see colours, hear sounds and feel textures. Some aspects of the world, it seems, are perceived through a particular sense. Others, like shape, are perceived through more than one sense. But what sense or senses do we use when perceiving time?

    It is certainly not associated with one particular sense. In fact, it seems odd to say that we see, hear or touch time passing. And indeed, even if all our senses were prevented from functioning for a while, we could still notice the passing of time through the changing pattern of our thought. Perhaps, then, we have a special faculty, distinct from the five senses, for detecting time. Or perhaps, as seems more likely, we notice time through perception of other things.
  • TheMadFool
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    The illusion/paradox of time is real for sure (twins, time zones, relativity, etc.), but also the perception of time is just as intriguing. Like the simple feeling that time seem to fly by when one is either busy or as one ages. And how it seems slow when one is bored or anxious3017amen

    This just goes to show time is unreal - lacking an objectivity of its own. If one's state of mind can affect how time flows, it suggests that time, if not entirely subjective, has a subjective aspect to it.

    Perhaps, then, we have a special faculty, distinct from the five senses, for detecting time.3017amen

    Don't count on it. As I'm beginning to realize - taking into account Einstein and what you said about how temporal perception changes with our state of mind - it appears to be the case that, at least within the framework of our discussion, time lacks an objective existence. Just saying...
  • 3017amen
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    Don't count on it. As I'm beginning to realize - taking into account Einstein and what you said about how temporal perception changes with our state of mind - it appears to be the case that, at least within the framework of our discussion, time lacks an objective existence. Just saying...TheMadFool

    No exceptions taken TMF. Perhaps it's some sort of Kantian intuit. Nevertheless, a subjective, existential thing of some sort that just is...
  • Victoria Nova
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    Modern day humans should simplify the way they perceive even the perception of reality. The clock arrow moving to the right is wrong, it depicts casted shadow, but objects on Earth, and also humans, who do cast shadows, move with Earth to the left. Thus clock has to show movement to the left, and quit dividing day into two overlapping circles of 12 hours. One day on a clock has to contain 24 divisions, for clean and uncomplicated understanding of how one astronomical day on Earth is built. Better yet, the clock has to be like a globe where it shows proper day/night correlation for different planetary zones and seasons.
    Say, I ma standing on equator at 12 Noon, where will I be at 1 PM? I will move with planet Earth to the left. Only southern hemisphere people can see me move to the right. Yet, time and movement of the Earth has always been counted by the point of view of Northern hemisphere.
  • Victoria Nova
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    Humans perceive frequency of change as time. People exist by certain repetitive patterns of human condition: hunger, satiety, tired, energized, cold, warm, aroused, young, old, etc. Weave those into frequency of repetitive patterns of Earth, seasons, planetary events, day/night, and we get a web of correlating frequencies of change to form in our psyche sensation of time or so we call it. In more scientific terms spatial location of our planet and our bodies keep changing in relation to other cosmic bodies, thus change our magnetic coordinates, they fluctuate, they cause aging of our bodies, while our organs, nervous system, vestibular apparatus, the glands all together create conglomerate of subliminal sensations, the web of which manifests itself in our subjective reality as some sort of passing of change between one point of defined reality to the next, some period of energy exchange during analyzing and confirming one state of surrounding and self to the next, differing state. Essentially, change happens through physical laws, interaction of chemical elements, or matter, and that exchange of energy seems to happen in turn, one after another, instead of remaining unchanged forever or changed all at once and suddenly. If physical changes in Universe were happening all at once people might have changed from newborn to dead old person in a split second, thus eliminating that which we call life, longevity and all the changes or events in between, eliminating them to our perception. People would have no chance to influence any of their existence, because of super fast tempo. The reality( change, time) we perceive and time we have on our hands during our lives allows us to use our brain size sufficiently to be in control of at least some aspects of our existence, allows us to move our species toward higher development, allows for evolution of live creatures to happen.
  • Victoria Nova
    36
    Te change as a result of physical interactions of matter is manifested in human mind as time.
  • TheMadFool
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    No exceptions taken TMF. Perhaps it's some sort of Kantian intuit. Nevertheless, a subjective, existential thing of some sort that just is...3017amen

    Can something be both objective and subjective?

    OPTICAL ILLUSIONS:

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