I suppose the covid policy that we were all forced to comply with did him no good. — Merkwurdichliebe

All spin, no substance. That's our world!

All spin, no substance. That's our world! — frank

We all maxed, vasked, and locked down, what else can we be expected to do?

We all maxed, vasked, and locked down, what else can we be expected to do? — Merkwurdichliebe

Nothing. As soon as the virus went AWOL in NY it was a foregone conclusion that we were headed for herd immunity. All over America, hospitals adjusted to devote all their resources to dealing with covid, and we still ran out of room and equipment.

You locked down to try to slow the spread so the hospital system wouldn't be more overloaded than it was.

Without the lockdowns, you would have gone outside in the morning to see what the people in 1918 saw: dead people laying in their yards.

I understand why nobody gets this. You didn't see what was happening in the hospitals. How could you know?

I suppose the covid policy that we were all forced to comply with did him no good. — Merkwurdichliebe

Presumably countless others like him were saved.

Anybody who saw what happened in Italy could've known. And I remember images from NY where people were stacked in the corridors needing ventilators but there obviously were not enough around.

Governments had let slide pandemic reserves, tossed their playbooks when it did happen (if they had one) and most of them didn't define exit strategies. They (western European countries) screwed over healthcare personnel to boot (we'll applaud you but fuck your raise after we've cut your budget in the past 2 decades), who understandably left in droves, leaving healthcare in shambles in many countries. Waiting lists are the longest ever in the Netherlands.

Without the lockdowns, you would have gone outside in the morning to see what the people in 1918 saw: dead people laying in their yards. — frank

That would be pretty grim.

Nowadays people are at least dying out of sight, part of the pool of 'unexplained' excess deaths.

You locked down to try to slow the spread so the hospital system wouldn't be more overloaded than it was.

Without the lockdowns, you would have gone outside in the morning to see what the people in 1918 saw: dead people laying in their yards.

I understand why nobody gets this. You didn't see what was happening in the hospitals. How could you know? — frank

:100:

(we'll applaud you but fuck your raise after we've cut your budget in the past 2 decades) — Benkei

:up: :clap:

Waiting lists are the longest ever in the Netherlands. — Benkei

Here too. The waiting list for whatever takes more than one year. My father needs to check his prostate periodically, and the last check was in July 2022. We have been waiting for the next check since then. Luckily, we can have an appointment with the doc in December 2023 or February 2024. :roll:

You locked down to try to slow the spread so the hospital system wouldn't be more overloaded than it was.

Without the lockdowns, you would have gone outside in the morning to see what the people in 1918 saw: dead people laying in their yards. — frank

That's the excuse they used on us all. But that wasn't the case in the hospitals in my area, which is what made the blanket policy so dumbfounded.

But that wasn't the case in the hospitals in my area — Merkwurdichliebe

It happened everywhere in the US. We talk to each other, you know. :razz:

It happened everywhere in the US. We talk to each other, you know. :razz: — frank

You didn't talk to everyone. And I imagine, given the hyper-sensorship and public stigma towards anyone who might have opposed the official narrative, it would have been practically impossible to talk to everyone.

You didn't talk to everyone. And I imagine, given the hyper-sensorship and public stigma towards anyone who might have opposed the official narrative, it would have been practically impossible to talk to everyone. — Merkwurdichliebe

I meant we healthcare workers talk to each other. There wasn't any official narrative that conflicted with what was happening on the ground as far as I'm aware. I didn't realize how deeply suspicious a large chunk of the population had become until I talked to one of my friends and found that he'd escaped to a dystopian nightmare. I'm not really sure what accounts for that belief that those in leadership positions are perpetrating a giant fraud. I mean, when they give massive tax breaks to the rich, it's wide out in the open. They aren't trying to hide it. They don't have to.

I'm not really sure what accounts for that belief that those in leadership positions are perpetrating a giant fraud. I mean, when they give massive tax breaks to the rich, it's wide out in the open. They aren't trying to hide it. They don't have to. — frank

You can't think of anything?

Regardless...those in leadership positions did not hide their covid scam. They publicly censored and rebuked anyone who opposed, right out in the open, for everyone to see. Also, the massive transfers of wealth, as well as the outright dismissal of constitutional law, were in no way concealed from anyone. No...they didn't have too hide much, they stirred up such hysteria with the mindless mob, and It took care of nearly all would be dissidents that could have otherwise proved troublesome to the agenda of our outstanding leadership. A round of applause for the amazing job they did, are doing, and will probably continue to do.

I wonder how many of those (in US), who have been bought and sold over the covid policy, were opposed to the Iraq War back in 2003? My guess...not one.

Regardless...those in leadership positions did not hide their covid scam — Merkwurdichliebe

That damn covid scam! It's still killing people! Not as many as it used to tho. It doesn't really rate much higher than flu these days. I'm taking a break from this forum for a while. Thanks for the discussion. :smile:

That damn covid scam! It's still killing people! Not as many as it used to tho. It doesn't really rate much higher than flu these days. I'm taking a break from this forum for a while. Thanks for the discussion. :smile: — frank

I wish you well :blush:

I wish you well :blush: — Merkwurdichliebe

thank you!