Paradoxes are not self-contradictions. You just showed the lack of your science education, @3017amen.

You're using rationalism to disprove EOG no?

And self reference unresolved paradox exists yes?

Really, please explain consciousness then LOL

We're waiting???? — 3017amen

As long as you explain first the unification theory between quantum mechanics and relativity theory.

Who the hell are you to tell me what to do? Are you my boss? No. So I do expect the courtesy and respect that you don't treat me like I were your subordinate.

Don't task me, please.

Are you angry now?

I am riled. I don't like to argue with blind fanatics who lose sight of logic, reason, and civility when they engage in their most sacred subject.

Consciousness and subconsciousness are as non-contradictory as a duck swimming on a lake. The legs are moving, but you can't see them, all you see is the body. It's still a unified whole.

Iyy.

One of the deficiencies of atheism is the notion that the existence of God is of great importance.

There is no love. God is love.

Therefore I have faith. Therefore I practice.

This is called 'practical reason'. Lawyers and judges believe in law and order despite, and because of, knowing that the world is chaotic and anarchic. Doctors seek to preserve life, despite and because of knowing that all men are mortal.

Atheism is inadequate because it is not worth dying for.

Atheism is inadequate because it is not worth dying for. — unenlightened

I wouldn't die for your god, either. It's not worth it.

Lawyers and judges believe in law and order despite, and because of, knowing that the world is chaotic and anarchic. — unenlightened

The world WOULD be chaotic and anarchic without law and order.

Doctors seek to preserve life, despite and because of knowing that all men are mortal. — unenlightened

I am not sure if all doctors have the same motivation to practice medicine. I see a lot of deaths in the United States that could have been prevented by proper medical care, which would have happened if the doctors actually practiced what YOU preach.

There is love. If you don't find it outside of God, it's not god's fault or the atheists'. Others do have love without involving god or the notion of a god image. You extrapolated from yourself, and at the same time admitted that you are not a loving person, or wouldn't be, if you did not believe in god. That is a pretty strong statement of your natural abilities and the lack of your inclination for compassion.

I wouldn't die for your god, either. It's not worth it. — god must be atheist

Fine, die for nothing, then.

Sorry, that sounds a bit harsh, doesn't it. but I don't know how to put it kindly.

I am riled. I don't like to argue with blind fanatics who lose sight of logic, reason, and civility when they engage in their most sacred subject. "



Are you sure? No one can seem to resolve this paradox, using your logic:

Socrates: " What Plato is about to say is false."
Plato: "Socrates has just spoken truly."

Which statement is true?

Fine, die for nothing, then. — unenlightened

Seems like a false dichotomy to me. Either god or nothing is worth dying for?

The people you love are worth living and dying for to most people, I would think.

That's not a paradox. It just means one of them is mistaken or lying.

Edit: misread it.

I already answered that: it's just a linguistic quirk that you can say all sorts of crazy things that have no bearing on reality.

Consciousness and subconsciousness are as non-contradictory as a duck swimming on a lake. The legs are moving, but you can't see them, all you see is the body. It's still a unified whole. "



Are you sure? When a person daydreams while driving, causing a crash, how does that happen?

Was their subconscious daydreaming, or was it their conscious?

Are you sure? When a person daydreams while driving, causing a crash, how does that happen?

Was their subconscious daydreaming, or was it their conscious? — 3017amen

Probably a bit of both.

That's not a paradox. It just means one of them is mistaken or lying. "



Oh I see.

1. Is this statement a lie?

Probably a bit of both. "



How does that work? Both suggests P and -P.

I must be mistaken...

That's not a statement, it's a question.

Seems like a false dichotomy to me. Either god or nothing is worth dying for?

The people you love are worth living and dying for to most people, I would think. — Artemis

Erm, can I just highlight the 'love' there? Did you think I was talking about some ectoplasmic emanation?

That's not a statement, it's a question.


1. This statement is a lie.

Is that better?

No, it doesn't. The brain multi-tasks. It can do many things at once. Like I can rub my belly and pat my head at the same time. Or play the melody and bass line on the piano at the same time.

Love doesn't entail god.

Ok, then answer this: did my consciousness daydream or my subconsciousness daydream, while driving the car?

1. This statement is a lie. — 3017amen

You keep on doing the same thing, so I'll jus shorthand it for ya: linguistic quirk.

Ok, then answer this: did my consciousness daydream or my subconsciousness daydream, while driving the car? — 3017amen

I answered that: probably a bit of both. They work together.

We are waiting for both of you to prove something, but you got nothing. Your logic could not answer those questions. Mmmmmmm, sounds like Atheism isn't as logical as you thought, no?

Ok, then answer this: did my consciousness daydream or my subconsciousness daydream, while driving the car?
— 3017amen

I answered that: probably a bit of both. They work together



But how?

Love doesn't entail god. — Artemis

God is love.

We are waiting for both of you to prove something, but you got nothing. Your logic could not answer those questions. Mmmmmmm, sounds like Atheism isn't a logical as you thought, no? — 3017amen

Actually, I did, and you're just refusing to engage it. That not only shows you've lost the argument, but that you're kind of a bad (and impolite) interlocutor.

God is love. — unenlightened

If you want to define god as love so that you can continue using that random word for whaatever reason, go ahead. But that means god is just an emotion and not a conscious entity, creator of the universe, or an independent existence in any way.