• Professor Death
    451
    time for a new thread about CCP imperialism
  • Professor Death
    451


    But nobody seems to care. Nobody even bothers talking about it on here except for @StreetlightX
  • Benkei
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    There's nobody here defending the PRC so not much discussion to be had I'm afraid. I read this thread though. It's good the UK is offering a special visa regime I suppose but that's not really going to solve the problem.
  • Professor Death
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    It's good the UK is offering a special visa regime I suppose but that's not really going to solve the problem.Benkei

    More aggressive deterrents are necessary. How much more ground will democracy lose? The CCP won't stop here.
  • Professor Death
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    CCP's Gestapo are in charge of HK now
  • Benkei
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    I don't see sufficient awareness with most Europeans for any type of action being likely. A statement here and a statement there and in a few months everybody will have forgotten while thousands of protesters will rot in jail.
  • Professor Death
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    potentially international protestors too: https://thechinacollection.org/hong-kongs-national-security-law-first-look/

    "The [Hong Kong national security] Law’s provisions on its scope have drawn a lot of attention. Article 38 states, “This Law shall apply to offences under this Law committed against the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region from outside the Region by a person who is not a permanent resident of the Region.” I know of no reason not to think it means what it appears to say: it is asserting extraterritorial jurisdiction over every person on the planet."
  • Benkei
    3.2k
    Yes, this is not the first time this has happened with laws. Some countries accept universal jurisdiction over human rights cases as well and then there's the US FATCA regulation. It appears to be the relatively new normal.
  • StreetlightX
    5.9k
    It's just so wildly upsetting. China just doesn't give a shit, and it has its hands in too many pies for many other nations to dare try and speak up. I will say, I have no doubt that it is not an accident that what is happening is happening when a jackass like Trump is in power in the States. China can - and has been - walking all over the US, and Trump is too much of an authoritarian loving fuckwit to do anything other than the bare minimum to help. And the way in which he's treated his own people in the recent civil rights protests - let's just say he's abdicated any international leverage the States might have had in trying to countervail China's treatment of Hong Kong.

    We're losing another democracy on this planet, and even as depilated as it was, it was still held a promise that now doesn't exist anymore. I have family who have posted pictures on the streets there and... I don't even know what to say. They are images straight out of dystopian science fiction films.
  • Professor Death
    451
    Trump the Enabler.

    Let's wait and see what happens in November I guess..
  • Punshhh
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    The silver lining is that Johnson has offered UK citizenship to the majority of Hong Kong's population, approx 3.5 million. I wonder if he told all his racist supporters, the Brexit party might now rear its ugly head again.

    Just the other day he tried to reassure his supporters that he isn't a Communist, with mass public support and impending tax rises.
  • StreetlightX
    5.9k
    Well, from HKers perspective, they are resolutely anti-communist (China), so it's very possible for BoJo to use this to shore up his anti-communist credentials.
  • Benkei
    3.2k
    To which the Chinese Ambassador already reacted as if it was the worst insult ever. Fuck the PRC.
  • Punshhh
    1.9k
    Yes, so the racists (who are right wing) in the UK want to get rid of the EU and EU nationals, because they don't want immigrants stealing our jobs and using the NHS, especially socialist ones. But it's alright to invite in 3.5 million immigrants to save them from communism, whether they steal our jobs and use the NHS or not.

    My first thought is that the working class supporters of the government and Brexit, aren't rightwing. They are left of centre and won't want to replace those pesky Europeans with pesky Hong Kong folk.
  • Professor Death
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    This is good, let's keep fucking over the CCP in any way possible: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53320715

    'Microsoft and Zoom have said they will not process data requests made by the Hong Kong authorities while they take stock of a new security law.

    They follow Facebook, Google, Twitter and the chat app Telegram, which had already announced similar "pauses" in compliance over the past two days.'
  • Punshhh
    1.9k
    I am boycotting Chinese goods, namely huawai products, because they won't be supported by Apple, google and Microsoft. I will update my IPad now before they become scarce and stock up on tools made in China before the prices start to go up.
  • Professor Death
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    and stock up on tools made in China before the prices start to go up.Punshhh

    Why bother? Start the boycott today
  • Punshhh
    1.9k
    Because all the products which are currently produced in China are going to go up in price, or become scarce.
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