...how a person comes to hold awareness of a particular concept and, hence, of a conceptual meaning holds no bearing on what is here at issue... — javra
Meaning is a consciousness phenomenon, — Qwex
The distinction between meaning and causality is one of elemental constituency. They are existentially dependent upon very different things. — creativesoul
No — creativesoul
Causality is not a type of meaning. — creativesoul
Causality needs no creature capable of drawing correlations between different things. All meaning does. — creativesoul
...now I see why you think all I said was incoherent, b/c you are off topic and missing the point of the thread. — Sir Philo Sophia
Everything is necessarily ‘meaningful’ to us if it is within our scope of attention. That — I like sushi
The correlation drawn between touching the fire and the ensuing pain makes both meaningful to the creature drawing the correlation. The correlation need not be drawn in order for touching fire to cause pain. — creativesoul
You're increasing the complexity of your argument without considering what I've just said with regard to what the meaning of a term consists of.
The term is one elemental constituent. That fact refutes your initial objection. No kidding. — creativesoul
You're increasing the complexity of your argument without considering what I've just said with regard to what the meaning of a term consists of.
The term is one elemental constituent. That fact refutes your initial objection. No kidding.
— creativesoul
An assertion of fact based on what evidence? — javra
Again, if a term at the tip of one’s tongue is meaningless (because its meaning is forgotten along with the term, this since they're both are one and the same "elemental constituent") — javra
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