• Shamshir
    855
    Oft I witness people in confusion over the object and objective of knowledge - acclaiming it as science.
    Science is, simply put, a method by which to assume and operate; as one may say for all things.

    I see a growing hubris being attached to science, which by its broadness fosters a gap between science and other ideas and methods - not bearing 'scientific weight'.

    The idea that science and philosophy are distinctly different and that science and religion are wholly different is to me an oddity.

    Philosophy's modus operandi is reasoning and its objective is understanding, as is for the 'sciences'.
    Reason is what confers the aesthetics of motion, turning it in to an act. Without reason, all motion may simply rendered as and brought down to - being.
    Science, Religion, Art, etc. are all groups bound by a certain belief, meant to entertain that belief.
    It would appear absurd to compare research with preaching; yet all three house research of some sort and a preaching of some sort. In simpler words, there is science in religion and religion in science, and that ought to be apparent - despite the thematical difference.

    All religion is merely its tenets, something evident in philosophy and its offspring - the sciences.
    If you do not follow the tenets of the science you practice, then perhaps you practice involuntarily - and this may or may not affect whether you are a scientist, or not.

    Now, I do not know whether confusion may be voluntary; regardless, voluntary or involuntary, why are some so set on pleasuring the ego through denial, rather than acceptance? Where does the cause lie?
  • akourios
    17
    I believe communication is the issue.

    If we communicate to influence others, then we are probably aiming to change their perception. If this is the goal of the conversation then we too should be open to the possibility of being influenced since doing otherwise would negate our intend to influence others in the first place. How do we expect other people to be open to the possibility that there is something which they don't know/understand if we ourselves aren't? For example, imagine two people with opposite opinions which they are not willing to change. Then there is no communication since they cannot be influenced. What is left is inaction or in extreme cases violence.


    If the goal is to argue effectively and with purpose, we need to be comfortable with changing our beliefs/values and trust that the conversation is aimed at something that’s of mutual benefit. This is important because thinking that the conversation favours only the other side then their facts would not be influential because they don’t improve our position. The possibility for change is also as important because it is the cause for all evolution, the relevant evolution being an improvement in the way of thinking. Now, if you don’t believe in evolution then the only way for common understanding is convincing you that evolution is real, or you convincing me that it is not. Still, changing one’s beliefs/values is considered evolution. However, the level of understanding in the conversation would depend on the communicators’ ability to process information and that depends on their intelligence and common sense.


    I define intelligence as the amount of information that you know, how well you validate this information (truth from falsehood), how well you can link this information together, and how well you can recall it. This definition of intelligence may explain how arguments/ideas are limited to the amount of information that one possesses, how capable we are of using information (e.g. 1+1 equals 2 and not solely 1+1), and how the true result of the conversation can be influenced by our ability to recall all the relevant information in order for it be used in our interpretations. In this context, if a person does not have well-developed forms of intelligence, then his understanding would be limited to his level of development.


    Assuming that perception is relative to the individual, to effectively engage in conversation we would need common sense. Common sense can be characterised as the ability to mentally unite the information conveyed by the five physical senses. Then, to be able to talk about the information gathered, we labelled and named the things (common language) that are associated with it. That is common sense. Now we can say that without common sense, the conversation would be meaningless and incomprehensible. For example, a transman is not a man unless he presents the biology of a man. Suggesting the opposite would mean that I am not using the five physical senses or that I am refusing the international label/name, thus there is no common sense. Of course, common sense can be associated with intelligence because again, "If a person does not have well-developed forms of intelligence, then his understanding would be limited to his level of development" and his perception would vary. However, if we choose to neglect the roots of common sense (physical senses + common language) then we should provide improved mechanisms for making sense of the world, or humanity will regress due to lesser cognition.


    Often, an atheist cannot convince a theist that his definition of God does not exist like the theist cannot convince the atheist that his God exists. The reason is that both sides expect to receive information that is related to their level of intelligence. However, if your aim in the communication is to really influence, then you can’t say things like “lack of knowledge leads to faith” or “if you don’t believe you will suffer” because this would destroy the conversation by corrupting mutual trust. Instead, we should communicate at a level that slightly exceeds the opposing side’s level of intelligence. For example, talk to babies like a baby and all they learn is baby talk. Talk to them like adults and they won’t understand a thing. The solution to this problem is finding the moderate where they mostly understand what you say but they are challenged at the same time. Then you would ask why would we want to challenge them? Because it opens them to the possibility of change and allows them to process information gradually.


    Therefore, intelligence from both sides is the key to effective communications and common sense is the medium.
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