• Rich
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    http://discovermagazine.com/2015/june/18-tomorrow-never-was

    "Ellis respected Einstein’s mathematical ingenuity, but he later balked at the philosophical implications of the block universe, in which the future stands on the same footing as the past. “If we are just machines living out a future that has already been set, then Adolf Hitler had no choice to do other than what he did; Hendrik Verwoerd, the architect of apartheid, had no choice,” Ellis says. It would be meaningless to tell them they were doing something wrong, he adds. “To me, that’s an untenable view of the world that will lead to great evil because people will just stand by as evil takes place.”"

    This is these ethical argument against determinism. But let's take it a step further. By what way of looking at things (I am purposely avoiding the inadequate terms of logic, reason, or scientific method), can science claim to providing us any insights into anything. These discoveries of science, within a deterministic construct, are supposedly all determined. But how are we to say that what is determined had anything to do with the universe? What or who is to say that any evidence had any meaning at all since it is all pre-determined. All we know, in a deterministic universe, is that everything is determined, but this statement is is determined and is not universally agreed upon, because it was determined so.

    This it comes down to a simple question, what in a deterministic universe, can be claimed to provide insight into the nature of nature. Is there a Law of Physics that binds the Laws of Physics to utter insights through its utterances and if so, why the disagreements? In the other hand, if the Laws of Physics can do anything who or what can be say that science is anything but an illusion?

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/physicist-george-ellis-knocks-physicists-for-knocking-philosophy-falsification-free-will/

    "Ellis: Yes. Einstein is perpetuating the belief that all causation is bottom up. This simply is not the case, as I can demonstrate with many examples from sociology, neuroscience, physiology, epigenetics, engineering, and physics. Furthermore if Einstein did not have free will in some meaningful sense, then he could not have been responsible for the theory of relativity – it would have been a product of lower level processes but not of an intelligent mind choosing between possible options."
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