"lived role" - Socially constructed expectation of behavior — Philosophim

I read this differently, since we live inside our heads

psychological factors — Philosophim

one's own psychological factors, not the factors of others

a person’s biological constitution — Philosophim

The brain is part of your biology

Is that all? Do you have anything more to say to my last response? — Philosophim

Much of your argument depends on one's identity being something produced outside of them, and I cannot accept that presumption.

Thank you for agreeing with me then. Glad you accept the premise of the OP. — Philosophim

That’s not what I said, and you know it. More importantly, you didn’t respond to my primary point which was:

taking gender into account is not the same thing as “placing gender over sex.” — T Clark

Your bias against me has nothing to do with philosophy or anything intellectual in the slightest. — Philosophim

I think your ideas on transgenderism are poorly argued and supported and I think it’s important that the weakness of your argument be demonstrated. Whether or not I’m doing a good job, that’s what I’m trying to do.

Then you clearly did not read the OP. Oh wait, you already said you didn't. — Philosophim

I did read the OP.

I just replied to his post. — Philosophim

It’s true, I wrote my post before I read your response to @Questioner’s post. Now I’ve read your post and the article Questioner linked to. The results presented in that article were fairly clear, if certainly not without qualifications. Sexual identity, or gender identity, or whatever you want to call it—and even brain structure—can be affected by genetic and hormonal effects both before and after birth. You ignored that.

Much of your argument depends on one's identity being something produced outside of them, and I cannot accept that presumption. — Questioner

No, my argument simply notes that gender is a subjective opinion of how a sex should act in society, and that this is essentially no more than prejudice or sexism if we say it is more important than the reality of your sex itself. A gendered opinion can be from the self, or society, so it does not need to be produced outside of an individual.

You know TClark, I know you're not a kid, and I know you can be sensible and polite. I don't get why you come in here being rude right off the bat without any focus on the actual discussion.

Your bias against me has nothing to do with philosophy or anything intellectual in the slightest.
— Philosophim

I think your ideas on transgenderism are poorly argued and supported and I think it’s important that the weakness of your argument be demonstrated. Whether or not I’m doing a good job, that’s what I’m trying to do. — T Clark

You are doing a terrible job. I don't mind if you don't like me. I don't mind if you don't like my arguments. But we're not on reddit. We're on a philosophy board. You don't have to like me. So swallow the personal attack accusations and actually give a coherent argument that addresses the OP instead of basic trolling and passive aggressive sniping.

Now I’ve read your post and the article they linked to. The results presented in that article were fairly clear, if certainly not without qualifications. Sexual identity, or gender identity, or whatever you want to call it—as well as brain structure—can be affected by genetic and hormonal effects both before and after birth. You ignored that. — T Clark

This is just lazy. I responded to, and posted several articles. Which one TClark? Maybe a quote? You've let your own bias turn your brains into mush and I'm about done with it. What a disappointment that one of my favorite posters isn't any better than some fresh face single digit poster.

So swallow the personal attack accusations and actually give a coherent argument that addresses the OP instead of basic trolling and passive aggressive sniping. — Philosophim

I went back and looked through all my comments on this thread. They were all civil. The only comment I found that was not philosophically appropriate was what I said about your obsession with transgender issues.

This is a controversial and provocative issue. If you’re going to mess around with it, you need to come up with better arguments. Something with substance. That’s what infuriates me about this, not your opinions, but the low quality of your arguments.

That’s what infuriates me about this, not your opinions, but the low quality of your arguments. — T Clark

Whenever you want to actually getting around to actually addressing them, let me know.