• Gmak
    12
    In my journey, I have pass through this subject. And it appear it's a sensitive subject. Which I understand why now.

    Here the result of my work on this.

    1-There is a real identity. Can be hidden in various way.
    2-There is the public identity. Facebook for example.
    3-There is the will identity: what you want to become.
    4-There is the hidden identity.
    5-There the hypocrite identity: the game you need to play among your family or group or friend.

    I would say there is more.
  • NOS4A2
    9.3k


    How does one hide a real identity?
  • Tom Storm
    9.2k
    So far this sounds like a fairly commonplace observation. When I've heard this argument proposed, generally people talk about selves rather than identities, but it is the same phenomenon. What about this do you find intriguing?
  • Hanover
    13k
    How does one hide a real identity?NOS4A2

    You call yourself NOS4A2 for example.
  • NOS4A2
    9.3k


    You call yourself NOS4A2 for example.

    I do not call myself that. You call me that.
  • Hanover
    13k
    I do not call myself that. You call me that.NOS4A2

    What do you call yourself?
  • NOS4A2
    9.3k


    My given name.
  • LuckyR
    543
    It seems to me that all of the listed "identities" are subjective, so while they exist, they're incredibly fluid.
  • Corvus
    3.5k
    I would say there is more.Gmak

    Is false identity also identity? Can there be identity of identity? If so, which identity is the real identity?

    Can identity exist without thing it identifies with? When the identified thing dies or becomes non-existence, what happens to the identity?
  • Hanover
    13k
    My given name.NOS4A2

    People use pseudonyms to hide their identity. I've seen it before. Like now.
  • unenlightened
    9.3k
    Begin the exploration of identity with a process - of identification. A process of creating boundaries between self and not-self, and identifications of self and 'other-like-me'.

    Obviously, there is a broadly informational fundamental reality in play here; a rock is what it is, but has no identity to itself true or false. I identify as a shit hot philosopher, and that can be true or false; either way it is a belief held by either a shit hot philosopher or a self-deluded being.

    You may identify me as a shit hot philosopher, a self-deluded being, or a dangerous radical or whatever, and your analysis of my identity is obviously heavily dependent on your own self- identification, and the identification of you made and communicated to you by significant others.

    Thus real and fake, true and false, public and private are all valid aspects of an identity formed through multiple interactions, and clearly there are strong aspects of 'reality' to even completely unrealistic self-identifications that people make of themselves and of others. I can think I'm a very stable genius and live in the world as if that is true, even if a more truthful assessment is that I am a narcissist fantasist living a fantasy life.
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