Suffering.Are there any absolute, indisputable standards of morality, or is morality relative to the place and time? — alan1000
Yes. One can be mistaken.Is it possible to be morally wrong even if one is convinced to do the right thing? — Matias
Yes. There's no such thing as moral statute of limitation.Another related question could be: is it possible to be morally wrong retroactively?
I think it only means that we are morally fallible.... we are doing something that we think is normal and morally acceptable, but without knowing or suspecting that it is (objectively!) morally wrong and we are in fact morally depraved beings?
All decent people today (at least in so-called Western countries) agree that slavery is morally wrong, and that this is not just an opinion, but a moral fact. Most would even argue that slavery has always been wrong, be it 200, 400 or 2000 years ago. — Matias
Would that mean that those people like me, who are still eating meat from animals that were raised and then killed for that purpose are in the same moral position as slave-owners in the year 1700 CE or 100 BCE — Matias
Is it possible to be morally wrong even if one is convinced to do the right thing? — Matias
Another related question could be: is it possible to be morally wrong retroactively? — Matias
Lets do a little thought experiment: Imagine that in the year 2100 all decent people are vegetarians and they are convinced that eating animals is as wrong as owning slaves or torturing suspects, and that meat-eating has always been wrong (after all there are a lot of people today who would say so, although I am not among them; but in the year 2100 this has become the general consensus). — Matias
Would you agree with me more if I replaced crime with immoral? — Agent Smith
- Ι get your poetic reference to genes but in real life there are no genes in control of our ethics.There are genes (i.e. of the warrior or hunter) that affect our behavior but they are not stronger from the environmental influences around us. What I want to say is that most people well in the middle of a "Bell curve" of our human biochemical diversity, are not to be blamed for their lack of "will power" (even if christianity disagrees lol).Personally, I would like to be vegan, but lack the will power to be one. Perhaps people like me - want to but haven't yet adopted veganism - are carriers of a proto-morality gene which will be expressed fully in a few generations down the line; some like you, a vegan, are ahead of the pack. — Agent Smith
when the authors of the Declaration of Independance wrote that "all men are created equal" they were talking about white men, not women nor black people — Matias
What you've written makes sense. I do think many of our country's founders were aware of the ambiguity and hypocrisy. — T Clark
has to truly resonate from within each individual and it has to start with empathy rather than rationality — Seeker
We literally need it because it has proteins and other compositions which help us to keep a healthy lifestyle. — javi2541997
It is difficult because it is impossible to put us in somebody else's place. — javi2541997
There isnt anything difficult about it, it is actually quite simple, either it is there or it is not. — Seeker
Our task could be understanding but not empathy. I don’t see it as simplistic. — javi2541997
For sociopaths, no doubt.Our task could be understanding but not empathy. — javi2541997
Our task could be understanding but not empathy. — javi2541997
For sociopaths, no doubt. — 180 Proof
I find empathy easier than understanding. — Tom Storm
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