Hahahaha! I've never laughed harder while on this forum. :lol:The problems some people have with postmodernism are due to their plebeian mentality. — baker
Do you think a poor, ugly person enjoys being self-aware, benefits from it? — baker
The elites do. That's why they exist. — baker
Do you think a poor, ugly person enjoys being self-aware, benefits from it?
I would say that self awareness has no bearing on appearance or financial resources. You seem to be talking about self-consciousness or self-hatred. — Tom Storm
Derrida's goal/s with "deconstruction" is one thing, the implications and applicability of what he proposes are quite another thing; and it's the self-refuting nature of the latter – in effect, reducing 'all' truth-making discourses to 'nothing but' tendentious rhetoric – which many critics like me take issue with. — 180 Proof
The term ‘self-refuting’ tips me off to the root of the issue here, which is less about Derrida in particular than about every one of the numerous philosophical discourses thar have appeared over the past 100 year which take their leave from Nietzsche’s
critique of truth — Joshs
I suspect most philosophical discourses in the last twenty-four centuries since Pyrrho of Elis refute themselves either partially or, the case of sophists, completely. — 180 Proof
It occurs to me I've never considered N to be anything but a philosophical (though not scientific) naturalist, especially emphasized in his "middle period" from Human, All Too Human to The Gay Science (and also later with On The Genealogy of Morals). IME, N is neither an existentialist nor a (Jamesian) pragmatist nor a p0m0 'cultural relativist' (nor, if it still needs to be said, a proto-fascist).This paper may be helpful in highlighting those aspects of N's philosophy which are predominately naturalistic as well as referrng to other critical commentaries which corroborate this view.I think that the interpretation offered by this paper is basically modernist, in its outlook: Nietzsche as naturalist, which I'm not sure I'd agree with that statement. At the very least it's not apparent that he's a naturalist — Moliere
Behold, I teach you the overman. The overman is the meaning of the earth. Let your will say: the overman shall be the meaning of the earth! I beseech you, my brothers, remain faithful to the earth, and do not believe those who speak to you of otherworldly hopes! Poison-mixers are they, whether they know it or not. Despisers of life are they, decaying and poisoned themselves, of whom the earth is weary: so let them go. — TSZ, Zarathustra's Prologue
It occurs to me I've never considered N to be anything but a philosophical[ (though not scientific) naturalist, — 180 Proof
It occurs to me I've never considered N to be anything but a philosophical[ (though not scientific) naturalist,
— 180 Proof
If by that, you mean he didn't incorporate supernatural causes into his philosophy, yes.
For N, truth is always a metaphor, though, so he certainly wasn't a physicalist. His touchstone was Schopenhauer. — Tate
Freddy only opposes Artie's conclusions, I think, not his pessimistic premises. — 180 Proof
Opposition to Schopenhauer's pessimism, yes. — Tate
Also opposition to his metaphysics, which Nietzsche thought was too close to Kantian idealism( his notion of will , for instance). Nietzsche considered himself to be making a radical break with metaphysics , and he thought Schopenhauer remained attached to it. — Joshs
I missed that. Where does he shoot down Kant? — Tate
↪Joshs I checked in with some professors on reddit. In some ways the later N is opposed to Kant, but he never strayed from basic Kantian metaphysics, that is, we don't know the world as it is.
You're putting it a little too strongly, in other words. — Tate
Yup! That's why I thought he'd be good too -- relative popularity, fits within the category, but also has a wide breadth of interpretations. Plus, given Nietzsche's aphoristic style, it makes sense that there are many Nietzsche's. I was hoping, given that, we could avoid some of the "what he really meant" type thoughts.There are many Nietzsches — Joshs
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