• Agent Smith
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    Autarky

    A self-sufficient economy is one that requires little or no trade with the outside world and is called an autarky. — Wikipedia

    The earth, as a whole, is an autarky.

    Is there a country that can be a full-fledged, authentic, autarky? If not, which country can come closest to being one?

    North Korea comes to mind; however it is autarky-like under international (read American) pressure.
  • 180 Proof
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    The earth, as a whole, is an autarky.Agent Smith
    Ignoring just the Sun and (that massive comet-asteroid deflector) Jupiter – yeah Earth is otherwise (thermodynamically & celestial mechanically) "self-sufficient". :eyes: :roll:
  • Agent Smith
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    Ignoring just the Sun and (that massive comet-asteroid deflector) Jupiter – yeah Earth is otherwise (thermodynamically & celestial mechanically) "self-sufficient". :eyes:180 Proof

    The Sun & Jupiter are implicit in autarky. Nevertheless, if hair-splittining is your thing, you have a point.

    Would you agree that the Solar system, as a whole, is an autarky (as long as the Sun's nuclear fuel lasts)?

    You got me thinking. Just like Jupiter, do ya suppose all the other planets too provide some kind of life-promoting/sustaining service to earth? Gravitationally, all the planets, acting in unison along with the Sun maybe keeping earth locked in the Sun's Goldilocks zone. In a sense, the entire planetary system around a star is critical to life on one of them. So, Jupiter's the vacuum cleaner (sucking up asteroids & comets. Shoemaker-Levy 9), Saturn's the..., Mars' the.... (fill in the blanks).
  • 180 Proof
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    Would you agree that the Solar system, as a whole, is an autarky (as long as the Sun's nuclear fuel lasts)?Agent Smith
    Yeah – ignoring the Milky Way (with the supermassive blackhole at the galactic center c27k light years away from Sol).
  • Agent Smith
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    Yeah – ignoring the Milky Way (with the supermassive blackhole at the galactic center c27k light years away from Sol).180 Proof

    :snicker: True, as per Chaos Theory, nothing at all is negligible...our ignore list should be a blank page. So much for simplicity.
  • 180 Proof
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    "Simplicity" ended after the first microsecond after the "big bang".
  • Agent Smith
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    "Simplicity" ended after the first microsecond after the "big bang".180 Proof

    The Big Bang is not the beginning of our universe, it is the end of our understanding. — Sean Carroll
  • Hillary
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    Exactly180 Proof

    If you knew the physics, that should be, exactly not.
  • Hillary
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    The Big Bang is not the beginning of our universe, it is the end of our understanding. — Sean Carroll

    A confession of ignorance...

    But hey, it's Carroll!
  • Hillary
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    "Simplicity" ended after the first microsecond after the "big bang".180 Proof

    No. That's when it started, to culminate right here and now! :rofl:
  • Agent Smith
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    If you knew the physics, that should be, exactly not.Hillary

    :chin: Gracias.
  • Hillary
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    The Big Bang is not the beginning of our universe, it is the end of our understanding — Sean Carroll

    He means we don't understand what came before it? "We're working on it!" And the money inflow is ensured. Even for asking him a question (without a guarantee on an answer!) you have to pay 4 dollar... Dear mother of god...
  • Hillary
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    Is there a country that can be a full-fledged, authentic, autarky?Agent Smith

    Bhutan.

    Ignoring just the Sun and (that massive comet-asteroid deflector) Jupiter – yeah Earth is otherwise (thermodynamically & celestial mechanically) "self-sufficient180 Proof

    If one ignores the Sun, no life is possible. Nor if you ignore the rest of the universe.
  • Agent Smith
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    BhutanHillary

    :snicker:

    Bhutan = The self-contained, self-sustaining, ever-expanding, universe! Possible! Why not?

    Or

    Another North Korea!
  • Hillary
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    Or

    Another North Korea!
    Agent Smith

    In Druk Yul all people are religious. What about North Korea? The religion of the Supreme Leader, the Great Leader, and the Dear Leader?
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