• Olivier5
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    We seem to agree that the Eiffel Tower does not exist in Platonic Form, in that it seems a strange idea that prior to 1889 the Eiffel Tower existed below the ground in Algeria in the form of iron.
    But your previous comment "As long as I can eat and work on it, and occasionally climb on it, the table is real enough for me" suggests that we agree the Eiffel Tower exists in Aristotelian form, in that we can both eat in the Jules Verne Restaurant and visit the Observation Platform.
    RussellA

    I was evidently kidding, but indeed you are right: my forms are Aristotelian. No matter without form, no form without matter.

    Your questions about "where in the world is this or that relational information?" can be answered within this framework: the shape that things take is part of reality, it is objective and ontic. The shape of my table is ontic, and so is the shape of the Eiffel Tower, or the shape of Scotland, with Glasgow ontically situated where it is, i.e. west of Edinburgh...
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