• Rxspence
    81
    Each measurement of Climate is an evaluation of climate, and changes
    the frequency that it is being evaluated.
    Rxspence

    An example of slight misrepresentation,,,
    The process of frequency observation changes that which is a frequency
    Viscosity measures the flow rate and by measuring the flow rate you change the viscosity
  • Rxspence
    81
    Could Science Exist Without Philosophy? (logic and reasoning)

    No.

    Never.

    Next subject, please.
    ssu

    And since there are no Philosophical Facts,
    Both SSU and The Mad Fool must agree that there can be no Scientific Facts.
    THIS IS CALLED LOGIC
  • 180 Proof
    5.6k
    By "pseudo-questions" I mean interrogatives without specified contexts or satisfaction-conditions for answering them (re: question-begging) as well as those "questions" for which we lack intelligible grounds to raise in the first place (re: idle "paper" doubts). They are incomplete, or vague, expressions that only look like questions but cannot fulfill an interrogative function (e.g. request for specific information; raise non-trivial, warranted doubts; make an indeterminate situation (Dewey) explicit and intelligible, etc). Probitive questions constitute the signal from which philosophizing filters-out the noise of "pseudo-questions", IMO, in order to begin thinking clearly.
  • Tom Storm
    2k
    Got ya. Yes, it surprises me how frequently people come on here with proposed 'answers' or looking for answers when their questions are muddled, assumption ridden, incomplete or tautological.
  • TheMadFool
    11.9k
    Thales of Miletus was a Greek mathematician, astronomer and pre-Socratic philosopher from Miletus in Ionia, Asia Minor. He was one of the Seven Sages of Greece. Many, most notably Aristotle, regarded him as the first philosopher in the Greek tradition,  and he is otherwise historically recognized as the first individual known to have entertained and engaged in scientific philosophy. He is often referred to as the Father of Science. — Wikipedia

    The connexion between science and philosophy stretches bsck to the very beginning of philosophy or should I say science. Is there a difference?
  • ssu
    4.5k
    And since there are no Philosophical Facts,
    Both SSU and The Mad Fool must agree that there can be no Scientific Facts.
    THIS IS CALLED LOGIC
    Rxspence
    No.

    Actually that is only your Philosophy.

    The philosophy of that "there are no Philosophical Facts, hence there can be no Scientific Facts".

    Sorry, but you cannot do without Philosophy here. Logic needs a logical system. And picking that system to model reality is a philosophical choice.
  • ssu
    4.5k
    The connexion between science and philosophy stretches back to the very beginning of philosophy or should I say science. Is there a difference?TheMadFool
    Only that perhaps philosophy does have some fields that clearly aren't science or scientific. Or you have to have quite a philosophical view to think that Aesthetics, Ethics, Religious Philosophy or Metaphilosophy are part of science.
  • TenderBar
    18

    19th century scientists, and those before and early 20th century ones, were still the both. Newton had interest in alchemy, Einstein strongly believed in god (though I discreet with his view on creativity), and Mach had a strong philosophical bend. Where are the present-day counterparts of Bolzmann, Schrõdinger, Bohr, Newton, etc.

    Maybe we can count Bohm, Capra, Penrose, and many more as such. Luckily they are still there.
  • ExistenceofSelf
    12
    (Social Engineer Explains)

    There is science and perspective science and they are in spectrum to each other. Both have constants of application to produce the same results over and over again. Both build on each other. If science can not find the solution, then science goes to perspective science and vice versa.

    Respectfully,
    Lloyd R Shisler
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