• niki wonoto
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    Capitalists often said the same thing that we have made a lot of progress thanks to capitalism. Okay sure, but they always forget, deny, or ignore that there are also many problems caused by uncontrollable capitalism.

    I'm tired of the same old boring arguments of capitalism .vs. socialism (or communism). Why can't we come up with another entirely brand new solution & system? Why are people/humans lacking so much creativity & new ideas in this area? Why do we progress (& think) so slow?
  • I like sushi
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    Capitalists often said the same thing that we have made a lot of progress thanks to capitalism. Okay sure, but they always forget, deny, or ignore that there are also many problems caused by uncontrollable capitalism.niki wonoto

    No they don’t.

    I'm tired of the same old boring arguments of capitalism .vs. socialism (or communism). Why can't we come up with another entirely brand new solution & system? Why are people/humans lacking so much creativity & new ideas in this area? Why do we progress (& think) so slow?niki wonoto

    We’re only human. We’ve managed to recognise Capitalism and Socialism as two rather distinct approaches that can be blended into each other to some degree.

    The issue is usually the age old ‘can’t see the wood for the trees’ saying. I don’t think economic problems stem from economic sources. It’s a bit like watching someone obsessed with stopping fires yet doing nothing to look deeply into the actual causes of the fire when they live amongst flammable goods and enjoy smoking 24/7.

    I’m fairly sure change will come when other ‘aspects’ of human life change. CRISPR is a technology that will have an immeasurable impact on human society. Colonising Mars will also change our outlook. How we adapt politically to things like this will perhaps shift human perspectives enough to open a door we never even recognised as a door before.

    In the meantime we just have to put up with the heat sadly - some more than others. The age of propaganda is in full swing and is growing its own tentacles. We’ve never really been in control of what happens anyway, we just like to assume we do the good stuff when it happens and blame others when the shit hits the fan.

    I just hope ageism doesn’t become a matter of political division. That could spell the end of civil society.
  • javi2541997
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    When Spain adopted a democratic constitution back in 1978 and in 1982 the socialist party won the elections they were asked if they were still being Marxist/socialist trying to implant a republic and then their leader answered: it is better the bad known than the good to know.

    capitalism: only money counts. It is true at least thanks to taxes it provides us some quality resources (not always). Supposedly we live in a representative democracy but you will never win agains those who are richer and powerful than you. Sometimes politicians are like masks. Probably it is a system that provides you opportunities but you have to be ready of despotism and that kind of people who reaches jobs with zero effort. It depends a lot of the country we are talking about but in the most of them if you are poor or don’t have an accurate salary you are the lowest and are forced to live in the slums. Due to this situation many people think capitalism is a lie where only the bank wins.
    It is a flawed system but the most relevant one.

    Socialism: it is proven by nature that is impossible being equal to each other. There is always been persons better and worse than you. So it is not profitable implant a system where everyone is forced to be equal the rest of their lives. It is TRUE that at least the Soviet Union provided a lot of chances to study in quality universities to everyone. But it was a system which did not follow at all a Greek educational program but totalitarianism. They were forced to be the best in everything. Sometimes this is not the attitude. Also when Soviet Union fell down don’t expect this situation anymore. If hard work people as Russians ended up not tolerating socialism nobody else will. North Korea probably but Cuba and China are somehow capitalist.

    Conclusion: both systems are flawed but (at least) in capitalism we are provided of resources due to democracy.

    Interesting fact this picture. What do you think?

    [img]http://N8u9aOV.jpg
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